I remember some people going nuts over Masai taking Barnes instead of Suggs. He looked extremely smart there.
Duncan Robinson is a 3pt specalist who only shot 33% from 3 last year and is on the books for 3 more years at 20 million per year? Fuck Duncan Robinson.
The Blazers Uprise guys actually had an interesting idea on Miami picks I never heard before. It was their video of the Cronin press conference a few days ago. 1 Basically it involved getting a 2025 1st from a 3rd team; lets say the 2025 Phoenix pick Brooklyn has. Get that for Herro or something. 2 Then tell OKC they can have the better of that 2025 Phoenix pick or the 2025 Miami pick - but send the worst of the picks back to Miami. 3 Then Miami has 7 future picks in every draft so they don't have Stephen restrictions. They could give the Blazers their 2024 2026 2028 2030 picks all unprotected. 4 They could also give swaps in 2027 (conditional) and 2029. A 2025 swap probably isn't worth doing as their picks is already the lesser of two. Pretty creative idea. Hoopsjock didn't think Cronin was creative enough to do this. Bones point was Cronin doesn't have to be; just demand Miami figure out that solution such as this and get the Blazers 5 great picks. Then its Pat Riley who needs to be creative. I guess the 5th pick would be from Caleb Martin going to a 3rd team or something.
As far as I can tell, it's unlikely that we will get the kind of haul that NOP got for Davis, or that Brooklyn got for Durant. I think our absolute best case scenario is Filler from third team (maybe Simmons) Jovic Jaquez 2024 pick (OKC takes 2026) 2028 pick 2030 pick Future pick from third team Future pick from Caleb Martin (maybe 4th team) So we get two young guys and five picks. I think that's the best we can hope for if Miami pushes in all their chips.
I don't think OKC would cooperate with the 2025 fantasy when they have the unprotected 2026 Miami pick. I also don't believe Miami would expose that many of their first's. Now, you can say, well then fuck Miami, but I don't think that gets Portland anywhere and if Herro is bringing back a future first I'd rather it was a 2027-2030 from their collection and it was going to Portland rather than back to Miami
Why? That's you giving into what the M'eat and the media want. The nice thing, when you know you're never going to be invited to the cool kids' table, is you don't have to make anyone happy. You can do what's best for you. We're the Portland Trail Blazers, charter members of the NBA chapter of Lambda Lambda Lambda.
I don't understand why finding a first-round pick for Herro would be a Portland problem. It seems like a Miami issue for me.
Adjusting I think our absolute best case scenario is Filler from third team (maybe Simmons) Jovic Jaquez 2024 pick (OKC takes 2026) 2025 pick swap 2027 pick swap 2028 pick 2029 pick swap 2030 pick Future pick from third team Future pick from Caleb Martin (maybe 4th team) 2026 2nd rounder 2029 2nd rounder 2030 2nd rounder Let's be honest.. you're gutting Miami's future. If they don't win a title in the next couple years they're completely fucked.
same trade: odds are it will be a non-lottery pick in 2025. But there's still a chance it will be the unprotected 2026 pick. And the value of both picks will drop dramatically if Dame goes to the Heat; so OKC has no incentive in making that more likely to happen
Without Martin I want unprotected swaps. Assuming those are good picks and unprotected too - thats a good haul and I'd do the deal. I suspect Miami is trying to get Dame for less. I think if this was available Joe would've done it. The 3rd team aspect is a wild card. Also Jaquez can't be traded until the 30th. I'd have much preferred if they took Leonard Miller or a bunch of guys with that pick over Jaquez though.
Yup. I suspect Joe isn't even having the conversation until Jaquez is free to be traded. I think Riley pulled that shit to try to keep Jaquez.
