I just don't want the Blazers to be stuck with the last 2 years of his contract. I wouldn't mind him being here another year for Scoot's rookie year, but I want to hand the keys to Scoot. sooner than 5 years from now.
Media wants clean narratives. Winning teams going for it. mid teams nuking it for rebuilds. young teams on the come up. Young play-in teams adding key pieces. a rebuilding team with Dame in camp with his replacement isn’t clean narrative. but we’re not entitled to clean narrative in a negotiation. Sit in the discomfort, Joe. This trade would make or break the rebuild.
Agreed. I'd be OK with a Chris Paul in OKC type of situation, but I don't think Dame would. Scoot's development should be a higher priority than satisfying Dame at this point.
The more I think about it. the reason there is only one team interested is not because Lillard says he only wants to go there. In the past clubs have often gone after guys who wanted to go somewhere else, even if those players had shorter contracts than Lillard. It's the age, the contract and the fact he is not a two way player with length.
What Dame thinks doesn't matter anymore. He'll have to decide between being uncomfortable in Portland or being unhappy in Detroit etc.
I’m content letting this drag on as long as possible. We aren’t playing right now so need to do anything, more pressure on Miami and even Dame.
And @Samuel makes the most important point. We don't have the luxury of not getting value for Dame. To do so would destroy this rebuild and put us at risk of losing Shaedon and Scoot because we couldn't build a winner around them.
That's why I'd really like to add a third piece of the puzzle if possible. Steph, Klay and Dray. A Dray-type player would be great, at minimum a high iq defensive player.
By mid-season, Brooklyn will look great to Dame. Brooklyn and/or BOS both have actual assets that are worth trading him for. BOS with a 3rd team could be incredible e.g. Dame to BOS, Brown to HOU or SAS or even Utah where actually valuable assets exist would be amazing for all teams involved.
And you have to wonder how the Heat might look at the trade deadline. If they're stuck in a holding pattern personnel-wise, other teams might look a lot better to Dame in comparison by then. And they're going to be holding Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson ... wonder how they'll feel after their fans trashed their value and then they couldn't trade them because they were waiting for the Blazers to crack.
I don't agree. We will have another lottery pick or two to add, and Sharpe and Scoot will probably have (in one another) a better teammate than Dame ever had (other than LMA, I guess). Getting lottery picks in 2025 and beyond is going to be awesome, but it won't make or break keeping those guys. The team will definitely have to do other things between now and then, and that's whether we get nothing for Dame or not.
I don't understand the argument that we should let Dame go for nothing. Why? He has a lot of value. We were upset with the value we got back for CJ and Norm, so why let Dame walk when we can get value back to surround Scoot and Shae in a rebuild? If you can get value back, you do it. Scoot and Shae by themselves is not going to catapult this team forward. We need other positions to be solidified for the long-term.
I'm not saying that we "should let Dame go for nothing". Did you accidentally quote my post or something?