Miami Heat Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors

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  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah, it's hilarious that Miami thinks we're going to accept a shit sandwich. They're not even offering their best offer. They think they can squeeze us and lowball. I suspect there's a good chance it might be done if they offered EVERYTHING, but they clearly have not.
     
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    Well, that's an opinion. I am willing to bet there are very few NBA front offices that would pick Herro over Maxey even if they both had the exact same skin complexion.
     
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    "Given that Lillard only gunna play here (Miami)."

    No, if you (Miami) don't up your offer, you aint getting Dame.

    No, if you (Dame) don't expand your list, you staying here. We don't care if we win or not, we not giving you away for scraps.

    Yes, if you expand your (Dame) list and we get a haul for you, we'll make the trade.

    Dame is under contract to play here for the remainder of his prime. He can only REQUEST. He is not a free agent who can DEMAND.

    Joe/Blazers have all the leverage.

    We trade him if we get good return.

    Otherwise, we keep him and we don't care if we win or not.

    Dame will soon realize his precious legacy and prime is evaporating by the day that he will expand his list.
     
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    Really bugs me when racial comments only offend when they are in one direction.
     
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    isn't Maxey an actual two way player?
     
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    he was tied with the worst defensive rating for the 76ers; 4 points worse than the team. And he was last on the team in DBPM

    so, doesn't look like 2-way to me
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Portland is the 3rd youngest team in the league. 2nd youngest if you remove Lillard.

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    I know this is an unpopular opinion here, but I'm not interested in Portland going younger and pushing tanking. I think 'tanking' will come naturally with this young group. I'd like to pick up a few young talents and some draft capital - But also pick up a solid starter.

    Portland has a nice young core. Add some balance. Build a culture of winning.

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    I didn't want Ayton before, but now that Scoot is the leader, it makes sense. Scoot will get the ball to Ayton and make the Blazer offense very difficult to stop. Scoot's enthusiasm, passing, and leadership would be very good for a center like Ayton.

    edit: I will add, contrary to many opinions of him, that Nurkic will flourish with Scoot. Nurk always shows up when surrounded by enthusiasm and good ball movement.
     
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    I'm with you. I think getting Herro to Utah and getting assets to Cleveland with Allen coming back to us is the most appealing path. The question is whether Utah would be willing to give up some of the future Cleveland picks and what we could give them (from Miami) to make that happen.
     
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    This is why I wanted to keep Grant and Thybulle. We NEED veterans. It's not good to have an extremely young team without vets to guide them.
     
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    Completely agree.
    I'd look at 2 Wizards as primary targets: Delon Wright & Gallinari would both be great mentors for the Blazers.
     
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    Scoot is ready to rock and roll.
    This team should be "going for it."
    Just get a fantastic forward/center in the same age ballpark, then get pieces that fit around them regardless of age.
     
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    Scoot is a 19-year-old veteran himself.
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    Thybulle and Allen playing drop coverage together would be a thing of beauty. It's somewhat outdated against a lot of players, but they're arguably the two best at it by position in the entire NBA.
     
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    In basketball, drop coverage is a defensive strategy commonly used in pick-and-roll situations to defend against the ball handler's drive to the basket. It is a pick-and-roll defensive technique primarily employed by teams in a half-court setting.

    During a pick-and-roll play, an offensive player (usually the point guard or ball handler) is assisted by a teammate who sets a screen (the pick) on the defender guarding the ball handler. The offensive player then uses the screen to create separation from the defender, allowing them to drive to the basket or make a play.

    In drop coverage, the defender guarding the screener (often the center or big man) does not aggressively step out to challenge the ball handler immediately after the pick is set. Instead, they "drop" back a few steps to protect the paint and cut off the driving lane to the basket. By maintaining this distance, the defender aims to prevent the ball handler from getting an easy path to the rim.

    The on-ball defender (usually a guard) must navigate around the screen and follow the ball handler closely, while the big man retreats to create a defensive wall between the ball handler and the basket. This defensive alignment forces the ball handler to take a mid-range jump shot or a three-point shot, which is generally considered less efficient than driving to the rim or getting a closer shot.

    Drop coverage is effective against players who are not strong outside shooters or when the defending team wants to limit drives to the basket. However, it also opens up the possibility for the ball handler to take open jump shots, so the defending team must weigh the risks and rewards based on the specific situation and the offensive player's skills.

    Different defensive strategies, like switching or hedging, are also commonly used in pick-and-roll situations, depending on the defensive team's overall game plan and the strengths and weaknesses of the players involved.
     
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    Herro and Simons are very close in terms of their skill level and what they bring. I don't know which one has more value to other teams. But I'd be fine with either as long as we could trade 1 for a PF/C.
     
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