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  1. SheedSoNasty

    SheedSoNasty Well-Known Member

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    If that’s the case, it should be Simons’. His name isn’t Anfernee Simon.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I was just suggesting the other day that that could be Walker's role. I mean, his pop's per-100-possession rebounding rates were almost identical to Buck's.
     
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    That is my dream for this season. Walker becomes that big strong guy under the basket, that continues to hop late in games, when the legs can feel like jelly.
     
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  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Try again. You can run miles every single day for decades and as long as you don't end up getting sideswiped or otherwise landing strangely, you may at worst end up with perhaps some cartilage damage decades down the road (I tore my lateral meniscus years ago and had it removed). You can throw a single pitch and tear your UCL even with proper preparation. A normal pitcher puts more strain on their rotator cuff in one inning than a basketball player puts on their body in a season.

    I would simply ask before trying to equate a repetitive motion sport with a non-repetitive motion sport one bother to educate themselves even to a minimum level.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Here are some more sources

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27125793/these-kids-ticking-bombs-threat-youth-basketball

    "Through dozens of interviews over the past two years with NBA team and league officials, current and former players, AAU coaches, parents, youth players, researchers, medical and athletic training officials in and around the NBA, as well as those intimately involved with youth basketball, one possible answer repeatedly emerged: Players, they say, are physically broken down by the time they reach the NBA.

    "It is grave," says one NBA general manager, who says his team's injury databases on players entering the draft, dating back decades, leave "no question" that there are more orthopedic issues among young players in recent years. "It's very sad, where a kid has an NBA body, he's got NBA talent, he's got even an NBA mentality, but he doesn't have a body that can withstand the rigors of the training and the actual games, whether it's to get to the NBA or just to hold up. It's a tough deal."

    Silver, in an interview with ESPN, calls the issue "the highest priority for the league -- and I think both in terms of the health and wellness of the players in the NBA, but also the larger category of millions of players, boys and girls, not just in the United States, but globally."

    "It's an epidemic," says Leo Papile, who founded and has coached the Boston Amateur Basketball Club on Nike's Elite Youth Basketball League circuit -- arguably the most prestigious grassroots circuit -- for four decades.

    "I have many kids who are going to go play in college next year," says Dr. Neeru Jayanthi, the Director of Sports Medicine Research and Education at Emory Healthcare in the Atlanta area and one of the leading researchers on youth sports, "and this whole year has just been about trying to get healthy so they can step on that doorstep as a freshman and actually have a chance to participate."

    Says Jayanthi: "Kids are broken by the time they get to college."
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/13217004/the-four-injury-risks-today-young-nba-players-face

    "Too much early mileage
    Smart began playing AAU basketball in third grade, and through the years he might play four AAU games per day and as many as five per day at national tournaments. And that was on top of in-season competition at school.

    This was the norm for Smart and other NBA rookies, and it creates perhaps the biggest red flag that trainers and others see in young players today: a considerable amount of mileage that can lead to more injuries at an earlier age.

    "The AAU is the biggest thing people around the league pinpoint as to why all these injuries are occurring," Stotts said.

    It's simply a matter of wear and tear.

    "I think you only have so many jumps and landings in your body before it begins to break down, and you can go down through every body part and say the same thing -- each one has a separate number," DiFrancesco said. "There's no way to go back and get those miles back, but there's ways to manage their overall workload."

    Obstacles exist, DiFrancesco said, such as the age-old notion that rookies must be "broken in" once they reach the NBA.

    "When I first got into the league, I got this sense that, once you get your hands on a rookie, you can just push him and push him until they drop -- literally sometimes," he said. "By design, there's many people that believe that's how you have to show them the ropes, the hard way, and just grind them to see if they're mentally tough enough to withstand what it means to be an NBA player."
     
  7. HailBlazers

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    Are you still able to run (pain free)? Dealing with long lingering meniscus injury.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    https://www.si.com/edge/2014/12/18/why-so-many-injuries-be-surprised-there-arent-more

    "Here’s my theory, and I’m pretty sure I’m correct: Players aren't sustaining these injuries because of the games they’re playing; they’re getting injured because of the number of practices and games they’ve already played. Hundreds of games, thousands of hours, since they were old enough to pick up a ball. Peewee. Youth leagues. Summer camps. Travel teams. AAU. High school. College. A relentless schedule of games, practice, travel, and training, sometimes for multiple teams and leagues, with multiple trainers and programs. No time for rest or recovery. No time to play or train for other sports. End result: The same muscles, ligaments, tendons, and joints are used over and over again, in the same direction, the same angles, the same motions. What piece of machinery doesn’t eventually give out from repeated use over many years? At some point, the human body just says, “Enough.”

    This one is from Tim Grover..... Michael Jordan's personal trainer.
     
  9. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I'm not being condescending, I'm being dismissive. Either you or the source of that article has no idea what they're comparing. For further research, I would invite you to read anything regarding the biomechanics of pitching. A good primer is Jeff Passan's "The Arm". Kyle Boddy of Driveline Baseball just came out with a book entitled "Hacking The Kenetic Chain". Any cursory research will tell you that comparing the stresses put on an arm by throwing a baseball simply do not compare to any activity in basketball.
     
  10. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Okay. What's your point? That's everyday wear and tear. When you bring up baseball, you're talking about the difference between throwing 90 mph and throwing 40 mph. Players can still play basketball, it just hurts more.

    And getting back to your original point, what proof is there that VW is worn down? The Euro schedule provides much more rest and downtime than ours does. In fact, one could make the argument that Scoot is more susceptible to injury than Victor because of the wear and tear of the American system.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Max... I don't know shit about playing baseball. It was an example that an article talking about youth sports was using. Why are you focused so much on that one example?
     
  12. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Absolutely not! I have undergone four knee surgeries (3 on one knee, 1 on the other), and by far the worst was losing my lateral mensicus. My ACL and MCL repairs went swimmingly. The mensicus was a quick recovery, but destroyed the ability of my knee to take impact in the long term.

    Frankly, I'm holding out for a knee replacement that will last me the rest of my life. I don't want another one when I'm 80.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You might be right. I'm just saying that overall, young players are suffering more injuries earlier in their careers because of the way that youth sports have evolved in the past 30 years. Maybe Europe is massively different.... but probably not.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Because I happen to know a little about baseball. And I'm telling you it's not analogous to anything basketball related. Repetitive motion sports are different.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    They play one game a week. They practice less. They play fewer minutes. Players are treated more gently. Ask any Euro who comes to the US and they'll tell you the same.
     
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    A good shooter shoots jump shots.

    Someone who finishes a lob or layoff is a different skill - their called a finisher.
     
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    As usual forum is getting testy in off season lol.
     
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    Arvydas Sabonis might argue this point...
     
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    One game a week is a horrible way to extract money from human beings /s
     
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    I had my knee replaced at the end of October. I'm 65 so you must be younger than me. It is an extremely painful recover and it takes 6 months before you feel "normal", but I am glad I did it. I couldn't walk the golf course before.
     
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