Exclusive All Things Scoot

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    The time to get Dame help was 7 years ago when he was entering his prime. Not when he's 33 with a flawed roster that's lacking contender level starters.

    It's way too late to win with Dame. That shipped sailed a few years ago. Ideally it would've been best if the Dame trade was done when we fired Neil. At least we're going down the right path now though.
     
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    Yeah, I was pushing for a Toronto trade. It made the most sense at the time. Scoot would have been an excellent addition to their team. I think Ujiri will regret not being more willing to offer a better package for him once they knew which way Charlotte was going.
     
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    From the talk, it wasn't just Scoot, but Scoot AND Sharpe. Obviously, as someone who hails from the Toronto area, the Raps would love to have had Shaedon. However, that package was a non-starter for us.
     
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    This is the absolute best case scenario. More likely are the rebuilds in Orlando after Dwight left, or Houston after Harden, or SAC after Cousins, or Minny after Love.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Rebuilding completely through the draft has rarely proven to be an effective strategy. When we dismantled the Jail Blazers we tried it, got luckier than we could imagine (Roy, LA and GO) and it still fell apart.

    You need a blend of young, prime and old, with roughly a third of each. That's the strategy that has proven to be the most effective.
     
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    Yeah, that was an insane requirement. Two high lottery picks for either OG or Siakam were way too much for players who would be free agents after one year.
     
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    This raises an interesting question. Obviously, they drafted very well, but Durant fell into their laps as the 100% obvious choice, so I can't give them credit there. But back to the question, has there ever been three consecutive drafts with future league MVPs? That has to be pretty rare, if not totally unique. No matter how well you draft, that's a near-impossible formula to follow if that level of talent isn't even in the draft.

    The next question becomes, how much of it was talent development? (Portland was rumored to be pretty hot for Westbrook, so OKC wasn't the only one who saw him as being undervalued. But, did anyone really expect him to become as good as he did, personality flaws aside?) Presti tends to get all of the credit, but it seems like the coaching staff deserves at least half.
     
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    It’s never a horrible idea to keep a HOF player on your roster.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Carmelo Anthony is gonna be in the HOF, should we have kept him?
     
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    Signing Melo was a better move than most thought it would be. You can't argue that. Well... Maybe you can?
    If you are talking about today? Really? I hear Kareem is still available?
     
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    This is like saying "Lebron is too old" for the last 5 years.
     
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    This is funny beings he just had his best season ever.
     
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    Father time is undefeated. Eventually he will decline. You'd think since he had his best season we would have more offers, no?
     
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    Lebron is not Dame.
     
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    Offers? Have you not been paying attention?
     
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    The point is just having a HOF player on your roster doesn't mean shit if they get older and fall off a cliff. Better to move off said player for as many assets to help with our new timeline than let him fall off a cliff, while paying him top salary, and ending up with no assets while staying just good enough to miss the playoffs or make the play-in.
     
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    I'm saying, shouldn't we have received a bunch of offers if he had his best season ever? Why aren't we?
     
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    Neither is Carmelo Anthony whom you were talking about but that's fine.
    You have missed on two responses now.
    Try someone else.
     
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    Again you are not paying attention.
    Try someone else.
     
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    Carmelo was signed for peanuts and in a different situation.

    You know your way to the meltdown thread since you created it.
     

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