Pac 12... 11... 10... 9... 8... 7...6...5...4... POOF!

TBH That would be a fun conference.

 

I'm not sure OSU runs through that conference. We all know the Cougs can be good at times. Stanford has had some really good teams. The Cal Bears can put together some good teams and we all know Boise State and Fresno State have both beat the Beavs before.
I think that conference gets tougher and the Beavers would eventually have to work to stay on top. I agree It would be a decent move if they could get a TV deal.

 

PIL in football was very strong when I grew up. Madison vs Grant and Benson was what it was all about. Course now you can't call it Madison any longer. Notice the color of my avatar. Blue and Red baby!

 

My thoughts as well.

 

there's something like a 35M exit fee from the MWC. That's essentially more than their total take from a 7 year media GOR that runs thru 2026

that's not an insurmountable exit fee but it's probably enough of an encumbrance that any team that would exit would want to have a fairly certain landing spot. That will be a hard needle to thread for any group negotiating a solid GOR for a future PAC conference with

the Apple deal that was offered to the PAC-9 was realistically in the 20-21M/year range. That was with Oregon/Washington/Utah/ASU. The Portland/Seattle/SLC/Phoenix markets. OSU might be able to claim some Portland market leverage, but WSU adds very little. And SDSU's realistic leverage in the San Diego market is minimal

I think it's a really tough hurdle to get any kind of deal lined up if Cal & Stanford are opting out, and all indications they will; Stanford almost certainly. And with existing MWC teams only having one foot out of the door. My guess would be the best they could do, if everything breaks in their favor, is around 10M/year per school. That might be a bit high, but maybe not. It would be better than the MWC payout though

 

Yeah PIL is all about basketball and track and now women’s soccer. Last PIL team to win the state football title was Benson in ‘88. We were 4A when I graduated in ‘90 as well.

 

It’s all hit or miss. Grants boys basketball which has a storied history was killing it just up until last season when the head coach left for West Linn and took one of hte best players in the state with him, so the other star left for Lake Oswego for football. So I’m not so sure that “sucks” is the term. I could put together some pretty amazing teams if I could pull in kids from the same amount of territory some of those suburban schools do.

 

Jefferson and Benson are pretty solid in girls basketball. Cleveland isn't terrible.

But overall, quality is quite a ways below other conferences.

PIL has the best cheerleading squads by far IMO.

 

continuing the autopsy on the demise of the Pac-12...a video that summarizes the timeline last week:



to summarize:

the deal Kliavkoff outlined on Wednesday, was not the actual GOR that he presented to the presidents on Friday morning. On Wednesday, he had said he had a 23m/year offer from Apple, AND a potential linear TV deal for premier games that would ad another 2-5M/year. And the potential fro a lot more money if subscriptions could get to the 1.7M level (which was crazy). But on Friday, all he actually had was the Apple offer for streaming only with no linear TV package. And the 23M/year was bullshit because Apple was demanding that the conference pay all production costs for the game. That would cost each school about 5M/year

in other words, the actual offer was in the 16-20M/year range for streaming only

the production cost component has been confirmed:





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this entire situation has been a slow-moving train-wreck sine the PAC hired Larry Scott. Missteps and miscalculations every step of the way. The reporting that Oregon/Washington didn't even show up for the Friday conference is false. They did, but realized immediately that Kliavkoff had been shoveling malarkey about what he had lined up; so they said bye and left for the Big-10; Oregon first, then Washington. Then the 3 other corner schools for the Big-12 although it's clear that the Arizona schools actually had left before Ducks/Huskies

 

Sad. They ran the conference into the ground over the last 15 years.

 

Hubris is a hell of a drug...

 

Winter league CHAMPIONS!

 

Top 4 seed in the SEC tournament hopefully. At large birth here we come

 

it has been mentioned here, but a year ago, the LA Times had an article detailing how it was USC, and it's president, who essentially killed the move to bring several Big-12 teams into the Pac-12 after Texas/Oklahoma defected to the SEC. Then 10 months later USC announced it was joining the BIG, along with UCLA

it would be extremely naive to believe that USC wasn't already hoping/planning to leave the PAC when they torpedoed the potential merger of the Pac-12 with some of the Big-12. This was a strategy on their part to get into the BIG while at the same time locking up the Southern California recruiting area. Specifically, the comments from USC power brokers clearly demonstrate that USC feared what Oregon was able to do against them, on the field, and in LA recruiting

USC wanted the Pac-12 to be effectively neutered as a Power-5 conference, and they desperately wanted Oregon to be part of the neutering



https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2022-07-29/usc-president-carol-folt-pac-12-expansion

USC has always been a arrogant piece of shit institution. That they would actively work to destroy the Pac-12 is despicable.

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another autopsy from USA Today (if you can stomach all the adds) that actually lays the foundation of the current situation as a 1984 SCOTUS ruling saying the NCAA did NOT have an anti-trust exemption so it could not legally control all media contracts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...m_term=hero&utm_content=usat-mclean-nletter06
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They were clearly scorched earth.

They are so threatened by UO and our ability to recruit in their backyard that they were clearly hoping to move on to the B1G and then burn the bridge behind them. They wanted to kill the Ducks as a top tier school. Completely fucked up. They didn't give a shit about anyone.

 

Most every year I migrate back to Eugene to see a game, this year it's vs USC and thats not by chance. As a fan I rarely boo, but this time I'll be making a game long exception.

STOMP

 

It wasn't USC that ultimately killed the PAC. It was the Ducks and Huskies. The PAC would have survived had they not bolted. The Ducks and Huskies just followed the $ signs rather than see the PAC survive.

 

Did you see what the final offer was on the media deal? It was insulting. Come on bruv.