Dame unfollows the Blazers on IG

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I think it’s time obvious what he’s doing - he was likely told that Miami doesn’t have the assets

    Now Dame is in bitch-mode.
     
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    It's my opinion. If it's something I heard, I will say it's something I heard even knowing the type of response that'd get. Call my opinion a narrative, but I'll explain it below:

    I'm not arguing that Cronin doesn't have a resume. I'm arguing that if ownership cared about resumes and hiring the best GM to put a winner on the court, they should've ran a proper interview process to determine who the best GM was to put a winner on the court. They didn't do that.

    Joe is a PR guy in the ways that Olshey was not; he's relatable. His demeanor is a stark contrast to Olshey's. He's not some super-slick speaker, he comes across as a regular Joe. I think that the organization valued that and knew that his personality would go over well with the fanbase. Cronin was the perfect guy to have under an ownership group that is absolutely full of shit. I have no problem with his personality, just that his personality (among other things) seemed prioritized over resume considering the lack of a true candidate search. Joe will keep Jody out of the tax, and will pitch it as an honest effort to the fanbase who, after Olshey's bullshit and pretentiousness, will be happy with Joe's honestly and "transparency" even when those statements don't line up with his actions at all because Joe doesn't seem like the type of guy to lie. That's the best kind of PR person to have in a general manager role.

    Look at how fans have blasted Dame without ever hearing his side of things or ever giving him a tenth of the benefit of the doubt they give Cronin.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    How would we have heard Dame's side of things?

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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    In vague quotes, unrelated likes, and random lyrics.
     
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    To be clear, I'm not calling you a liar, nor have I ever said Cronin has never lied.

    I'm just waiting for someone to provide evidence of a situation where Cronin said he was going to do something with the full intention of never doing so.
     
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    I believe it is disappointment of a goal not being achieved, rather than Cronin lying.
    But saying that Dame is very disappointed in Cronin doesn't get as much attention.
    There is a group of people out there that wants to focus the blame for Dame wanting a trade 100% on someone else and need a villain because they've invested so much in Dame.
     
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    We wouldn't publicly. Harden called Morey a liar and is getting fined 6-figures from it. Dame's not going to do that or speak out on it. He's trying to get the organization to give him what he wants right now.
     
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    And I will be the first to say I can't provide evidence of Cronin's specific intentions. But neither can anyone else. There's no hard evidence that he intended to build a winner around Dame. All we have is Cronin's actions and reporting, which is up for interpretation. Regardless of what I believe, I think it's naive to think we have the full picture.
     
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    We agree on that. I certainly know I don't have the full picture, but I wish I did!
     
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    I'm sorry but ... what????
     
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    Yeah that is a weird take. Dame got the benefit of the doubt for years. All the way up to asking out and saying he only wanted to go one place. Then having his agent tell everyone he won’t accept a trade anywhere else.
     
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    Dame hasn't needed the benefit of the doubt. Who's actions have matched whose words before this culminated in a trade demand?
     
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    We very rarely have anything close to all the facts on pretty much anything, but lets just assume the worst and then get upset about it.

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    I messed up the Bledsoe buyout date...
    I have a good excuse for that:
    > watching CJ Elleby playing 25m a night during the 2022 Blazer tank fried my brain. Keljin Blevins, and the worst airballs I've ever seen in the NBA, may have caused short term memory loss.
     
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    That's the thing here that is being debated. Joe's been at this for a couple years. Because he has tried and failed (Which by the way is what he said) you are trying to say he lied. Now lets take some things dame said? The whole "Run from the grind" thing sounds a bit shallow now? That doesn't mean he lied. Just that his situation changed.
    I don't think anyone actually lied on purpose to mislead anyone. I think this situation has run it's course and in this day and age having a player as long as we did Lillard was a blessing. Time to move forward for both parties.
    But then again I've been at this much much longer than you. I've been through this before a bunch of times (Walton, Drexler, Wallace, in some way Randolph, Broy, Aldridge) so it stands to reason I might view it differently.

    AT least we don't have Jason Quick in the middle of it all.
     
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    Seriously. Who can say this was not the Blazers taking care of Lillard. Could that spot have ever been used for a veteran player instead of Blevins?
     
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    That's an awful rationalization to support a horribly sycophantic initial take.

    As I said earlier, this is one of those issues where you have an obvious blind spot to everyone but yourself. You can't even adequately defend it, but you're just going to keep doubling down. SMH,
     
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    Husband calls wife: "I'll be home in five minutes."

    Husband gets into car accident on the way. Winds up in hospital. Wife doesn't visit. Wife's sister's neighbor's cousin's mailman Bones visits him in the hospital.

    Husband asks Bones if he knows why he hasn't heard from his wife.

    Bones: "Oh, yeah. Well, you lied to her about not coming home that day. She left you. What did you expect to happen?"
     
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    I didn't mean that the Spurs are going to follow our model my man, obviously that would make zero sense. I meant Scoot and Sharpe would bail after signing their Rookie contract extension. You seem AOK with potential long term consequences of giving Dame/Goodwin/Riley what they want. You're trying to win the short game and setting up mega losses in the long term. We at least need to hold firm until the Trade Deadline unless there is a miracle trade between now and then.
     
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    It has nothing to do with me being ok with giving Dame/Goodwin/Riley what they want. It's all about me not buying your theory that the Blazers would be better off excluding a possible trade partner, even if they could produce that best possible return. There is ZERO evidence that if the Heat offered the Blazers the best return possible and they took it, that it would have any impact on Scoot, Sharpe, or any future deals. Just like I pushed back at the opposite theory that if we don't honor Dame's wishes that Scoot/Sharpe would be less likely to re-sign in the future.

    I'm 100% fine waiting as long as needed to maximize the return. I'm not ok reducing the number of trade partners we'll work with.
     
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