If the Blazers refused to even contact the Celtics about J. Brown after if you believe the rumors that Dame had Brown convinced to get the Celt's to deal him to the Blazers but Cronin did not even contact them. IF that was the case WHY the HELL would this team want Kat .... they would not. This is part of the reason why I am so anti Cronin and Vulcan and why and not putting blame on Jody but we still do not know IF she is / was willing to go over the tax for this team. I will not go over this old crap again since only a few on this forum believe it even though prolly the truth or at least part of the truth. I will wait for the truth then we will see who was closest to being right and who was wrong simple at that but said it before might be a few years plus before we know.
Since you confirmed the Blazers would trade #7 for a vet then #3 for a vet both to appease Dame.... Perhaps this means Dame will most certainly end up elsewhere?
Not sure I buy this... Lowry and Duncan Robinson are both worse than Herro and the Heat have no other big contracts to trade. If I could pick whatever assets I wanted in a Heat trade I'm putting Herro in it (obviously excluding Butler/Bam which isn't realistic)
It's not a guarantee offers will "not be any worse". It might be a good bet to risk offers will be better, I'd take that bet if Miami isn't offering us close to the max they can. But its certainly not a guarantee a better deal will be available later. Nate has a point in that there is possible downside to holding onto Dame.
They can't do it without help from one or more other teams which is the only way they could keep Herro and trade for Dame. Miami talks a big game but I think Joe has them sweating bullets to try and put something together before the season starts. Let em sweat.
I wouldn't be shocked if something like this happened where Dame got Brown on board to force his way here and Cronin wouldn't go through with it... Dame's scorched earth stance would seem to indicate there was some major falling out behind the scenes. But its just pure speculation on your part that this is primarily Cronin's fault. Perhaps Jody changed her mind and directed him to not go into the tax. Perhaps the Celtics demanded Sharpe and Scoot which Cronin wouldn't do but Dame wanted. Who knows there are a million possibilities with primarily the blame on Cronin, primarily the blame on Dame, and a million permutations that are all possible inbetween. We'll likely never know, and even if more details come out it'll probably be half truths blaming the other side or furthering someone's agenda. Overall Dame and Cronin are responsible for their public actions, statements they make, how they perform their jobs, and what they send out in the media.
I get that Miami would try to involve a 3rd team, thats not the part I question. I question Miami keeping Herro on their roster when completing a Dame trade. That just doesn't make any sense to me regardless if its a two or more team deal.
wtf Danny Marang on Locked on Blazers today, sabotaging a perfectly decent Blazers podcast. Mike begins to say cool stuff about Lillard, then asks Danny what more does Lillard need to do to get big time trade offers from other teams. Danny responds, "he needs to show he's STILL THAT GUY, and there's zero drop off." C'mon Dame, one more year, MVP time, 40 points a night, you got this, we love you, we promise to trade you asap... PLEASE > correct me if I'm wrong with that interpretation Mike's question starts @22:27
Just look at the Warriors bullshit last season. They accuse Portland of juicing up GP2weeks with Toradol. Headline news everywhere for a couple weeks. Then, a month later or so they release a statement basically saying "oops, our bad, no Toradol was used." But that did not get the news that the accusation did. Portland should have filed something with the league for disparaging and hurting the franchise with no proof.
One thing that might be hurting his value is that the guy hasn't played much in the past two years. Some of that is clearly the Blazers asking him to sit out, but if he's not on the court, can teams 100% be sure that he's healthy and not injury prone at this point? 29 games in 21-22 58 games in 22-23 So he played in about 53% of his games in the past two years.
That's a really convenient way to ignore context. He had a well-publicized injury and surgery in 21-22. And after returning from that, he had the best season of his career (missing 10 games for season-end tanking). I seriously doubt anyone is legitimately concerned about Dame's long-term health.
Agreed. And just because we haven't heard other offers, it doesn't mean his value isn't high. He's an offensive force who is on contract for several more seasons. I'm sure there have been better offers out there but with Dame's reluctance to open up his list, we're at a stalemate.
Let's say a non Miami team offers waaaay better than Miami for Dame. Joe comes to Dame, "would you be willing to go there?" Dame says, No I only wanna go to Miami (imagine annoying stubborn baby voice) Joe resonds, "if you're in my shoes, would you trade Dame to Miami given the other team's offer?" As an entrepreneur himself, Dame gotta know this is business. This is a career-defining trade in Joe's young GM career. He wants to have a job after Dame.
I wonder if Dame requested a trade partly to satisfy all the yahoos who keep ranting about him staying in Portland and how dumb that is. That topic has been shut down and the finger is now being pointed at Cronin. So far we don't see a huge amount of movement by the Dame camp to get a trade done. If their final position is Miami-or-Bust , that becomes Miami-or-Portland. Or, just Portland.
don't try and stick up for Marang. You're a better podcaster then he is. We're Blazer fans here, not Cronin's personal paparazzi goon. After Lillard's 2 week November calf strain, Dame played about 50 straight games and averaged just about 34 ppg before Cronin asked Lillard to stop playing his amazing season. Yah, Lillard had a surgery the year before, but that's after what... 9 straight years of being one of the most durable tip top shape athletes in the NBA? Lillard does not have to prove anything to anyone in Portland, let alone show Danny Marang that he can continue to be an All-Star All-NBA player.
