OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

Pot/Kettle...not surprised that you choose to focus on only one part of a post and completely refuse to respond to the rest.

...your trollish claims have once again been countered as per usual, so it seems that it's you who is short on "self awareness"...lol, troll on, jb.

 

No 100%. But 99% is pretty good.

Birth control is not 100% effective but a hell of a lot more effective than hoping not to get pregnant.

 

This is false. Israel is a good example of an extremely high transmission rate in a near universally vaccinated population. The death rate isn’t exactly exemplary either despite that.

When do you see this? When you were wearing a mask and not getting berated by lunatics?

Covid is over, has been for a long time. Nobody I know or have even heard of through secondary connections died from it. Everyone I know has had it though. When do you expect this retribution to take place? Sane people aren’t jumping on board with the Covid nonsense anymore. The scare tactics didn’t work the first time and certainly won’t work a second time.

 

False.

 

You mean like the 99% survival rate of Covid?

 

Which is why you think the way you do. If one of your kids had died from it, trust me, you would have some differing opinions I promise you.

 

A strange battle to continue to fight. Go to work bro.

 

Taiwan, Denmark and New Zealand had the most succes containing covid and it was by using safety measures, not denying the science. You do you but nobody hates you dude...it's called disagreement. You really sensationalize and politicize all your disagreements on the topic but the fact is vaccinations masks and hand washing saved millions of lives and covid killed millions of lives. As an old fart with a bum ticker I'm not into this "let the old go" when it comes to death. I'll take the shot. I've beaten death 3 times in my life with the help of modern medicine. That's demonstrable and not one doctor of the many I see has died from vaccinations either.

 

Children dying of Covid is virtually nonexistent. Stop with the emotional manipulation.

 

I’ve repeatedly brought up varying age groups and believe in examining the cost/reward of the vaccine. If you’re at risk then get it, I’m not, so don’t make me. That’s really all it boils down to for me.

 

Please explain the difference? Immunity offers a degree of protection. Protection can offer a degree of immunity.

They are literally the same thing.

 

of the 4.4 million covid deaths (that have been reported) 17,400 were children with 47% of those being from age 0-9....the number that doesn't get figured in would be still births from mothers who had covid...they don't show up on the stat sheet. Everyone knew from day one it would kill more elderly and at risk adults but that's true of every sickness.

 

Children's parents do die from it. And vaccines reduce the frequency, duration, and severity of infection for everyone vaccinated.

Vaccinated kids infect fewer people (including parents), thereby causing fewer kids to grow up without a parent.

These are good things. There is no downside.

 

we've had this disagreement before....taking the shot particularly when the first wave arrived wasn't because you need it as much as you are less likely to infect a snowballing social circle with it which could shut down schools and jobs, etc...it was for public protection as much as personal protection. That's what contagious stands for. I'm sure you quarantined and kept your neighbors from getting it when you got it. My son quarantined when he got it and his wife and kids were spared getting it. The safety measures work. You can still get it but it probably won't kill you when you do if vaxxed. I personally don't care if you take safety precautions or not but my advice is free to either listen to or ignore.

 

As long as you sign off on not being treated for anything you aren't vaccinated for in hospitals as well as being personally financially responsible if you infect somebody else with anything you aren't vaccinated for I'm fine with you not being vaccinated.

 

Come on man. You know what you’re doing here don’t make me play dumb games, I truly believe you are smarter than this.
Being immune to something is not the same as having “some” degree of protection against it. That is such a false dichotomy.

 

No, it's literally the same. No vaccines (or inoculation or infection related immunity) have ever made everyone immune to anything. They have only ever offered varying degrees of immunity to a varying percent of the population for varying lengths of time.

Or, in other words, varying degrees of protection to a varying percent of the population for varying lengths of time.

And in doing so, they have been an absolutely wonderful benefit to society.

 

I don’t think that’s up to you. Do I also get to refrain from paying the taxes that prop up this medical system after I’m denied access to it?

 

I didn't suggest it was up to me, but you're here sharing your opinion, and I'm sharing mine.

I am also fine with you opting out of paying taxes if you don't use any of the services the taxes support.

You can avoid using the streets and sign up to be exempted from police, fire, and other emergency services.

I'm sorry, once again, this is your choice to refuse to contribute. I'm not proposing you be denied anything, rather, given the choice to abstain.