Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

And the marketing opportunities being the face of the only team in a country far surpass what he could get in Miami.

Toronto is one of the largest cities in North America and the Raptors have a far greater reach than the Heat.

And... Drake.

 

Given the recent happenings, I actually went back for another look at Gradey Dick, mostly through scouting videos. He'll never be a star or particularly great defensively, but I do think his long-term upside is being a bit undersold. He certainly can shoot, but he can also pass, cut, and shows are really advanced feel for the game. His potential to me reads as a bigger, longer, and better playmaking Kyle Korver. It may not sound particularly sexy, but it can result in a pretty impactful player on a good team.

 

OG is 26. Not 36.

 

Dick has a higher ceiling (by far) than any of these other guys.

Jovic => maybe gets to be a decent bench player

Jaquez => maybe becomes Josh Hart type

Dick => can become a healthy Gordon Hayward

 

you don't have to keep them. but if it works, you can. allow time and information to be the guide here.

the west is going to be punishing every night regardless.

 

It's a no from me.

 

The bias is strong with this one lol.

Alright dude.

 

I get what you're saying regarding running a similar team back. I was talking about the probability that Scoot or Sharpe will be "greatness".

 

It's not that Gradey Dick is all that good, it's that Jovic and Jaquez are meh burgers. I didn't realize how many Jaquez/Jovic heads there were in the chat. I've seen the tape—what am I missing? (seriously)

 

Sure. Technically anyone could be a focal point. But few can be "the center of interest or activity" of an offense on a winning team. I do not believe Ayton is that guy.

Having said that, I see value in trying to bring him in next to Scoot.

 

Trust the process!

 

Ayton has some nice tools. Ayton greatly benefits from having someone create for him. Scoot, like most PGs could benefit from multiple options.

Ayton being a part of the offense makes far more sense to me than being the focal point.

 

I'm just going to say again that if Indy likes OG enough to give us Walker and send McConnell to the Suns. Also if we send Thad to the Suns along with Nurk. Then we could end up with:

Scoot, Shae, Jarace, Jerami (til the trade deadline), Ayton, Ant (we'll see how long), Dick, Matisse, Kris, Moses, Nas, Keon Jabari... That's a fucking exciting young roster. It probably won't make the playoffs this season especially after trading Jerami for picks and expirings but it's exciting where they could go.

 

I think a looming issue would be 4 guys on rookie contracts. I think ideally, and especially with the new cap structure, you always have some top tier guys, some middle, and some low. If all those guys hit, you absolutely can't retain them all reasonably, and they'd all need to re-up around the same time period.
I mentioned elsewhere I don't mind overpaying OG and Aton because their deals would be dwindling as Scoot and Sharpe(hopefully!) are set to get their max deals. Our future is ultimately, for now, tied o the two of them, so the $$ side of everything needs to be viewed that way as well. Overpay guys now, lock them in to our culture and hopefully winning soon with that future backcourt, and then keep them around cheaper later. Versus 4 rookies/2nd year players all maxing at the same time.

 

Love the idea, but I don't think there is even the slightest chance that an expiring OG can get you Walker from the Pacers. They are, rightly, very high in him.

 

I think it would be cool, if in three years they've all already hit then that will be a great problem to have and we can figure out which guys we have to have and which guys need to be moved. Most likely at least two of the three will be role playing starters and the other two might be all stars but that seems wildly optimistic. I say that right now we should be as ambitious as possible acquiring young talent and watch it sort itself out.

 

I'm not cool with taking on OG as a rental and the most valuable piece in the Dame trade, so we'll have to find a place to flip him before pulling the trigger.

 

Hitting on all 4 would be a great problem to have. The reality is that it's more likely to be 2 continuing with the team. I'll take that problem every time.

 

are you really going to get a better value for him now vs at the deadline?

 

Cronin needs to wait

The more teams place serious offers fpr Dame, the higher his value becomes

I will make a ridiculous example to make my point

Let's say Toronto Offers Barnes, filler, 5 FRPs

Not gunna happen, right? But let's say that was the best offer for Dame

Can Dame tell Cronin with a straight face to accept Miami's subpar offer? Of course not.

So, for Dame to get his wish of taking his talents to South Beach, Miami must match or exceed the best offer out there.

Cronin's goal: Make Miami match best offer

Waiting only increases Dame's value because crazy things happen in the NBA between September and February