How's everyone feel about Smokin' Joe Cronin now?

Awesome. Thanks Dame.

 

This has no merit. Anti-tanking rules were part of the new CBA signed this offseason. The league is not going to retroactively punish us for last season.

 

They punished Dallas before the new rules.

 

Exactly. Now that they have a framework and new rules to abide by, I don’t think they can retroactively punish us. I could be wrong though.

And if they did, it would most likely be a fine at most.

 

They'll investigate like they did the Gary Payton II bullshit and it'll come to nothing. I don't see how they can backtrack that far. That'd open up a whole can of worms for traded players grumbling about their old team and throwing it under the bus because back in the day...they tanked because we were banged up anyway.

 

Well, unlike the GP2 situation, we actually did tank.

 

true and there's some karma involved in tanking..like losing your franchise player. I think that's enough tax to pay.

 

Dallas blatantly tanked a game at halftime and talked about it afterwards. It got tons of national press.

and the penalty was a $750K fine. And the NBA explicitly said the fine was because Dallas still had a playoff berth on the line and their actions harmed the league. Portland was 9 games under .500 when Dame sat, and they were 13th seed. The 'investigation' is likely to go nowhere because the NBA doesn't care about bad teams being bad. If anything, it would result in a slap on the wrist like a 250K fine, probably less

 

I hope you’re right.

 

I think the tanking investigation will result in the '28 and '30 draft swaps and the '29 1st round pick being forwarded to Miami. It's only fair after all we put them through this summer.

 

If it's true, wouldn't it be more appropriate to blame those who are responsible for the wrongdoing? Not Dame?

 

Ffc6e4a96d by Mote posted May 4, 2017 at 3:04 PM

 

No?

Teams have been tanking for decades. But players didn’t come out and throw them under the bus.

 

all day the talk of Bay Area sportstalk was how can the W's get Jrue from Portland? The mid-day consensus was it would take at least CP3's expiring deal (to match dollars), Kuminga and their 2026 1st. The other consensus was the Clippers would probably put together a better package.

Holiday is going to bring back a haul

STOMP

 

Based on a hit piece by what is loosely referred to as a reporter?
And then a player would have to talk with the NBA in an investigation?
A player who would then be persona non grata in Portland where his businesses and house are?

Really?
That dog won’t hunt.

 

Id do that. Then Id look to trade CP3 to either Clippers (Batum & Kenyon Martin) or Heat (Lowry & Jovic)
In both cases we get a good mentor for the team and a young guy with some promise

 

Coach Billups was yanking Shaedon out the middle of game for "playing too good" during super duper tank mode. In the ultimate ultimate tank battle vs. Spurs, Coach Billups benched Watford for the entire 4th quarter because he had helped the Blazers take the lead.

Now "tanking" penalties typically refer to benching superstars, nobody cares about bench grunts. The NBA isn't stupid, every crummy team tanks every year. But there was plenty of blatant "in game" active tanking by Portland. Coach Billups had a weird looking smile while doing it. Great for Blazers lottery ... not so good for NBA reputation of competitive professional sports.

 

Typically the people involved in the tanking benefit by not being honest about it. In this case, that isn't true.

While I wouldn't consider Dame the "victim" in this circumstance, blaming the whistleblower and not the bad-actor is an odd stance to me. But tribalism can make people do things that aren't always logical.

At the end of the day, I think we all know the Blazers did tank. I think we also know the benefit of tanking was Scoot, and I seriously doubt if there is a punishment, it will out-weigh the benefit.

 

But it’s just one more example of trying to hurt the team on his way out the door.

It’s like he doesn’t understand that him hurting the team that we love will also, by proxy, hurt the fans that he supposedly loves.

 

The game of Dame is hurting the Blazers, when he supposedly loves them vs the Blazers are lying to Dame and not doing right by him, despite supposedly loving him, is tiresome to me. It is possible to love someone/something and still be hurt by them and not do everything in your power to set them up in the best situation possible. I tend to believe we've seen that play out on both sides in this case. The people insistent on making Dame or Cronin out to be the bad guy is weird to me, they both share responsibility in this not working and how it played out, along with a few others.

Regardless, IF the Blazers front office/coaches did break the rules, that is the fault of the Blazers and nobody else. Doesn't matter if other people do it. Doesn't matter how the league finds out about it. The people responsible are the people to blame for any consequences.