How is it hate? I think I’m pretty fair about my assessments of him. I think most people just realize what he is. Ideally his best role is as a 6th man. He should be a Malcolm Brogdon. But his defense is REALLY bad which limits him. He has to get at least adequate as a defender.
ok...that's a little more reasonable and at least you didn't shit on me as a hater of course Ant will get incrementally better at what he does; just about all players do given good health. Dame got better after his 5th season. So did CJ for that matter. But they did not fundamentally change the type of players they were. They didn't get better at defense and they didn't get taller. They got better within their limitations. And Ant has limitations, lots of them and I'll grant I might not be seeing what hidden skills Ant has that he hasn't revealed in 5 seasons and nearly 300 games. That I may be missing gears he'll shift into he couldn't shift into when Dame was around. That I'm off base in thinking Ant averaging more PPG on a bad team would be simply viewed as empty calories by most objective observers . Maybe it's because I've been here before. I was arguing that the Blazers absolutely needed to trade CJ and I was making that argument in 2016. I was called a CJ hater when I scoffed at the notion CJ would be an all-star if he didn't play with Dame. I was called a hater when I pointed at CJ's size and his terrible defense. And just about every single argument in favor of Ant right now I heard made for CJ, over and over and over...with the same passion you have for Ant. And by the way...I didn't coin the MeJ label....CJ earned that by his play and somebody else came up with it, somebody in the group of fans wanting CJ gone that grew into the vast majority of blazer fans so yeah, maybe I'm too influenced by the CJ experience. But for fucksakes, after 7 long failing years of a bad-defense combination of a 6'2 PG and a 6'3 SG in Dame/CJ, and two more years of a bad-defense combo 6'2 PG and a 6'3 SG in Dame/Ant, the last thing I want to watch is 2 or 3 or 4 more years of a 6'2 PG and 6'3 SG in Scoot/Ant. I just want it to stop
I feel if we can trade Dame we can trade Ant for assets or a small forward that can defend. All these guys are chips, some worth more than others. What if someone offers a decent small forward before or at the trade deadline for Ant? The offense will not suffer as we have plenty of guys that can score. Brogdon healthy is a better fit than Ant on this team and we will trade him too.
Thank you to whoever it was that shared the Oscar from the Office picture saying he looks like Brogdon. All I see is Oscar now when I see or think of Brogdon. Doesn’t help the Office is one of my favorite shows all time and I’ve watched it all at least 3 times.
Brogdon to Philly seems like a no brainer. They have to be in the overpay mode to make Embid happy. I’d take a pick or two
they only have one pick and it's in 2030. And they'd have difficulty matching salary. And of course, Morey is an asshole. I think Philly would be a bad trading partner for Brogdon unless it's part of a Harden trade....and that will probably be messy
It's interesting to think back on all of Sam Hinkie's machinations to acquire a stack of assets for the 76ers over several years, only to have it come down holding one first round pick 7 years out, along with some sad assed contracts a few years later. So much for "trusting the process".........and it provides a legitimate caveat for "asset acquisition". As Toronto (a couple of years ago) and Milwaukie (last week) have showed, sometimes you need to fish or cut bait. Hopefully Cronin doesn't get so "asset blind" he loses sight of the ultimate goal......
I wanted to do this for Harden then flip Harden to Mia or LAC but can't match salaries for 60 days...
Interesting that TOR now seems frozen with Siakam and OG only having one yr left and expecting big pay days, they already lost FVV for nothing, will something similar happen to those assets?
It wasn't really Hinkes fault for all of that though... they had Elton brand and Colangelo throwing away assets for nothing. Trade for Butler then let him walk to Miami. Process was actually decent idea at the time. If they had just 3 or so vets on the roster for a more mature locker room might have had better development too. 29 teams lose every year so i think people forget it's 97% chance of failure and that doesn't take into account higher probability of repeat champions. OKC is sort of like the process 2.0 in some ways and they could be scary good 5-10 years from now.
The Clippers one isn't too tough, again depending on the picks. But honestly, I've come around to being happy to have Brogdon on the squad.
Well sure if its a 3 way you can do it..... I was thinking straight up for Harden which would be one trade prior to LAC or Miami deal as before Harden where we did one trade prior to acquire Brogdon and one trade prior to acquire Holiday.
Yes - thats why it has to be two seperate deals. One deal Philly is giving us 1-2 picks and then another deal is with Miami for 1-2 picks and then another deal with team ??? for 1-2 picks... Eventually we'd acquire so many picks we'd have half as many as OKC.
