OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: OCTOBER 2023

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  1. handiman

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    I think Scoot/Ayton will be better than Fox/Sabonis. Probably not as soon as this year, but it wouldn't surprise me. Sac's duo is more polished offensively, but likely much worse defensively. If Sharpe picks up where he left off last year, our supporting cast should be as good, or better than, Sac's. So, I don't agree with dismissing Ayton's past playoff performances on the basis of this team not being ready to make a playoff run to take advantage.

    Other than Sabonis being a better teammate thus far, I think most GMs would take Ayton over him, regardless of contract. It remains to be seen whether that is an issue here. So far, his attitude has been excellent, so I'm giving him a blank slate and hoping his Phoenix issues were just due to the surly veteran mix he wasn't jiving with.
     
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    You didn't. Nobody did.
     
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    I doubt that quite a bit, but it's not really a provable point
     
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    Then you know that it doesn’t matter how many alley oops LMA caught.

    What I’m saying is Ayton’s ceiling is a 1B or 2 option on a winning team, but not The Guy. A 18-8 to 20-10 guy who tops out at 21 PER. That kind of “LMA ceiling”. That’s literally it.
     
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    Ayton's ceiling is prime Robinson, David
     
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    That would be great. His ceiling as a defender is much higher, as is his athleticism. Imagine being mad at that.
     
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    Question: Does winning Rookie of Year have any financial incentives in terms of contract?

    Im not talking about one time prize for winning iy, but beong qualified for a higher contract extenaion or something

    For example San Antonio wants to limit Wemby usage but Wemby wanna play as much as he can
     
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    Wemby and Chet coming up in a few minutes on League Pass at Paycom Center.
     
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    Champagnie, Vassell, Jones, Collins and Wemby starting for SA.
     
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    pretty sure it doesn't. I'm not even sure the NBA allows much in the way of incentives for rookie scale contracts
     
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    Zach Collins has 3 personal fouls halfway through the 1st quarter. Chet Holmgren looking like very good.
     
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    That seems to be the ceiling of our expectations but I don’t know if I believe it’s his actual ceiling.
     
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    Quite a few from Camby. As a duo, they led the league one season.
     
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    I think people will be disappointed by this. I do not think those people will be reasonable in their disappointment.
     
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    Offense gets All-Star nods. Defense builds championship teams. Look how much more excitement there was around the league for Jrue's availability than there was for Dame's. Sure, one was a slow cooker and the other a pressure cooker, but it was pretty clear which of the two was more valued by contenders, and it wasn't the one with more accolades.

    Sabonis is actually pretty similar to Dame -- lots of heart, terrible defense -- so I'm not surprised by your take. Can't be swayed by anything the statistics can't measure...
     
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    Wemby vs Chet, Battle of Thin Towers.
     
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    did that make you feel better...throwing out another one of your weak insipid insults?

    where is the evidence Ayton is better at defense? your opinion? I've watched both play and I don't see any advantage for Ayton
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Chet looks noticeably smaller than Wemby.
     
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    So Wemby is a lock for an All-Star spot, right? He's gonna get the Yao treatment?
     
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    I suppose he'll get a lot of votes from France.
     

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