I have no idea, I just went by nba.com for a very simple stat, so no one would complain about how one puts weights on things. If you want to go by the total number of points in the clutch, They both seem to be in the 140+ in their best years, Dame's highest is 183, Roy's 150, but again, long ball and all that jazz. I thought that FG% is a pretty good indicator of clutch performance. Unfortunately, nba.com does not give you a TS% and I am too lazy to do the math myself. NBA.com does give you FT% in clutch and Brandon's numbers are 3 years in the 90%, 1 in the 80% and one 75%, I have looked at Dame's last 5 years, 3 in the 90% range, 2 in the 80% range, I would think that Dame is a better shooter than Roy, but Roy was probably able to score in more ways than Dame. Either way, Roy was elite in the clutch, just as Dame was, but like I said, variance was smaller with Roy, for better and worse.
Roy got clutch buckets from everywhere, though. And was such a threat he was able to make an easy pass post opposite for a bunny. Dude was clutch. I knew we were going to win every clutch game with Roy. We were going to get a good look, and if it ended up being in the paint Roy would be shooting free throws to seal it. Again. Dame is great. But so was Roy. I'd personally take healthy Roy over healthy Dame. I'd take both over Drexler. And Walton over all 3.
Walton left as a free agent. He did demand a trade but everyone knew he was injured and unable to play. Nobody was giving up anything for him. To even request a trade was ludicrous with that injury and knowing he was out for the entire season and about to be a free agent. He did no damage to Portland at all. And suing the Blazers doctors was legitimate. He just simply packed up and left as his contract had expired. He did not leave after signing a super max contract and having four years left on said contract. And because he was a free agent he did not tank Portlands leverage in a trade scenario, nor was he able to demand a trade to only one team since he was in fact a free agent. Then there is the question of did Dame demand a trade after Grant agreed to a 5/$150 mil contract, a contract many believe Portland would not have agreed to had Dame asked out earlier. It seemed Dame was waiting for Grant to get paid. With all this, I am happy everything worked out for Dame and Portland in the end.
I don't think we ever really saw a fully healthy Roy in the NBA. He had his big injuries that led to his early retirement from the NBA in college. There was a reason he was not taken in the first 3 in the draft.
How did roy ended up a blazer? We drated thomas at 4 then traded him for #2 la with chicago. Minny got roy at 6
This, btw, I think that I am most excited for Shae's development in the NBA. He has the tools to be a healthy Roy if he continues to develop as we hope he can. I do not know if he will have the killer attitude that Roy had, but we see glimpses. It's important to remember how young he is, Roy was 22 when he was drafted and Shae is still just 20... As great as Scoot could potentially be, the one player that could, one day, be proven to be a generational talent on the team, imho, is more likely than not Shae.
Damn, two high profile top ten draft day trades in same year ending with aldridge and roy. . And got durant the following year. Wow!
Dame always looks so bored in preseason or all star games. His juices definitely don’t start flowing unless it counts.
1. That supermax contract did no harm to the Blazers and was very much earned and deserved by Lillard. 2. Not signing Grant to that contract would have hurt the Blazers far more than letting him walk for nothing.
Yes, Sharpe is our most likely generational talent, top-5 in the league guy. He has the most sheer athleticism since Drexler (and in fact a bit more!!!) and he just has unlimited talent. Does he have the will to win? As you mention we've seen it in flashes and it really is the single most important thing for him to develop. I couldn't be happier that we have Scoot and that he has such a dominant personality with endless desire to win. I hear Rupert is similar. These are the kind of guys I want in spades to be around Ayton and Sharpe so they can reach their potential.
Well, I also hope we both are doing a disservice to scoot. We have seen that elite athletic small guards are not enough to take a team to a ring (see Russell, Westbrook) and the same is true for smart, supremely skilled small guards ( see Paul, Chris). Maybe scoot can be a combination of both and prove us wrong, but shae's path seems easier to that lofty goal.
This thread sure got off topic. Personally I hope Lillard's trade demand to play for a ring fails in Milwaukee. Sends a msg to stars who sign max deals with 4 years left that the grass isn't always greener. I like the Bucks and they've been my favorite eastern conf team for a while now. I just want the Blazers to win one before the Bucks or Heat can get another one.
Reading stuff like this hurts. If only we could have gotten someone great to pair with Lillard. 'We can do this all night': Dame-Giannis pairing off to impressive start LOS ANGELES -- It didn't take long for Giannis Antetokounmpo to realize just how different life would be for him playing alongside seven-time All-Star Damian Lillard compared to the rest of his 11-year NBA career. It was all but one possession into the pair's first preseason game together Sunday against the Los Angeles Lakers when things became crystal clear for the two-time MVP. "I'll be very honest," Antetokounmpo said after the Bucks' 108-97 win, "I've never been this open. And first of all, I've never seen anybody being double-teamed from the first possession of the game." Lillard, acquired by the Bucks as part of a three-team deal with the Phoenix Suns and the Portland Trail Blazers last month, said that pairing with a player like Antetokounmpo made the Lakers' defensive schemes easy to digest. "Having another guy out there that's just dominant," Lillard said after Antetokounmpo scored 16 points in 15 minutes on 7-for-10 shooting. "He can dominate a game and win you a game. ... First couple plays, they blitz me, they trap me and the guy that I'm releasing the ball to is Giannis. So I'm just like, 'Uh, we can do this all night.' You know what I mean?" The duo officially logged their partnership in the scorebook midway through the first quarter when Lillard stole the ball from Lakers center Christian Wood and sped up court, delivering a bullet of a pass to rack up an assist on an Antetokounmpo transition dunk. Lillard didn't attempt his first shot until the next possession, with 6:24 remaining in the first, when he got fouled by D'Angelo Russell beyond the 3-point line. They ran pick-and-roll together in the half court. Sometimes Lillard handled the ball and Antetokounmpo set the screen; sometimes the roles were reversed and Lillard used his 6-foot-2, 195-pound frame to spring the Bucks star. "We're going to have a lot of options," Lillard said. "There's going to be times where he's willing to make the play to me, and vice versa, as we saw today." Milwaukee held a 56-53 lead at the half when Bucks coach Adrian Griffin gave Antetokounmpo the rest of the night off. Lillard finished with 14 points on 3-for-10 shooting, including going 6-for-6 on free throws, and added four steals and three assists. He started the second half, giving him a chance to control the action without Antetokounmpo on the floor, before resting in the fourth quarter. As limited as the dress rehearsal might have been, with Antetokounmpo and Lillard finally sharing the court for only a couple of quarters in the third game of the Bucks' five-game exhibition slate, Griffin was impressed with what he saw. "Today was a great first step in the right direction," Griffin said. "You can see those guys love playing together already. And not just Dame and Giannis, but everyone was just pulling for each other." The 28-year-old Antetokounmpo praised the 33-year-old Lillard as much for the person he is as he lauded him as a player. "I feel like it's like a little version of me," Antetokounmpo. "A guard version. ... Quiet. Goes about his business. Takes care of his family. Shows up. Practices really hard. Helps his teammates when he needs to be vocal. ... And when the game starts, he's just a killer." https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-antetokounmpo-bucks-pairing-impressive-start
