Bust a Scoot?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Even after drafting Scoot, I have felt that Shae has the most superstar potential. But I think Scoot can be the heart of the team. Shae can be the one who takes over for Dame as the star. The 30 ppg guy. I want Scoot to be the 20 and 10 guy.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I agree about Shaedon, I think he eventually could be like a Kobe Bryant type player (not saying he's the next Kobe). I think Scoot could be a 16-7 guy. Nothing to sneeze at, but he needs to be more of a distributor and a threat on offense. Right now he's neither.
     
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    If Scoot ends up only being a 16 and 7 guy, he will be a bust imo. If he never hits 9 or 10 assists in his career I’m going to be disappointed.
     
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    To me, I was hoping Scoot would be playing better, but it is still way to early to tell if he is a bust. He is young and there is still growth/potential. Better to think of him as an underclassmen in college. What I do know that is a bust is our starting forwards, that shit needs to go ASAP. Grant/Thybulle pairing is a big fat nothing burger. From what I can tell Ant and Grant were going to be the #1A/1B options and with Ant out, Grant is the defacto #1 and watching him go 1 on 1 or even 1 on 2 or 3 and dribbles off a foot or gets picked is a frick'n eye sore. Grant should never be the focal point of an offense and Thybulle at best is a defensive specialist off the bench. Maybe have Camara start, he at least is a threat to shoot and score, this might even open things up for Scoot.
     
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    Sharpe should be 1A to me.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Bad dog!
     
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    Just admit it already.
    You Hate Scoot Henderson!
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    BUT... HINDSIGHT IS 20/20! I HONKED ONCE! REEEEEEEE!
     
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    ok...I see where you're coming from

    and sure, the 'baptism-of-fire' for Scoot may not be the best thing for him. Maybe having less responsibility by coming off the bench to begin his career would have been better. And Dame may have been a better mentor than Brogdon; although I'd think mentoring Scoot should fall under Chauncey's duties but I'm seriously doubting Chauncey right now in a lot of ways

    Scoot has a lot to overcome. He's too young and inexperienced to be consistent as a starter at PG in the NBA. Last night he was trying to attack Maxey-Melton-Beverly with Embiid lurking. And teams are sagging way off of him while going under screens; taking away driving and passing lanes while daring him to shoot from 18 feet or more. That also takes away his mid-range game at the same time it negates his speed. That's what every team will do until Scoot can make them pay by hitting those shots with some consistency....and I don't know that Scoot is capable of that right now
     
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    Bingo. Chauncy has got to go as soon as we have somebody proven in developing young teams.

    I'd gladly take Stotts back.
     
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    after 3 games:

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    statistically, Walker has been the best player. But less than 14 min/game is not really valid. Scoot with a minus 2.0 PER and a minus 16.4 BPM....wowsers!

    the most revealing stat in his line? that .033 FT Rate tells me he's not doing anything with the ball or the offense he should be doing. Also: Scoot and Grant have been a terrible mix so far
     
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    Yeah, I never expected Scoot to be better than Sharpe.
     
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    I think of Shaedon more of like a TMac than a Kobe. Gotta show that killer instinct first.
     
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    Most of the time players that suck when they first come into the league never make the leap to being a good player. It happens, but it's more common that they never amount to much. Markelle Fultz came into the league at 19 with no jumpshot. He's now 25 and still has no jump shot and an average player at best. His scouting report is similar to Scoots.
     
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    No one will complain if Shae is TMac and not Kobe
     
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    His shot is scary bad at this point. Ben Simmons bad.
     
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    Everything you're talking about is right now. I don't think any of us should be concerned with where Scoot is at right now. I think him starting and having to run the offense or 'baptism-of-fire' is a fine thing, it's just bad for optics right now but that's another thing we shouldn't care about. Give it at least half a season and probably a little more but these reps Scoot is getting are valuable and as long as he doesn't get discouraged (which I don't really think is the way he works mentally) he will learn and we'll see him settle in. That's when we should be worrying about his skill set and whether or not it looks like it could be viable... not right now when he obviously doesn't even know how to use the skills he already has.
     
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    If he continues to struggle, I hope they bring him off the bench, otherwise it could really hurt his confidence.

    I think many QBs in the NFL get destroyed this way, they get drafted by a bad team and thrown into the fire and never recover.
     
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    QBs in the NFL get destroyed this way because they get hit so much, I think reps as a PG in the NBA are far far different than reps as a QB in the NFL. Scoot needs these learning experiences, if he was soft spoken and needed more confidence then he would need to be brought along slower like Ant or Shaedon but I think Scoot is completely different from them mentally and he will learn and grow from failure. If we start to see him getting timid and we start to see that confidence dwindle in interviews then I would consider bringing him off the bench and along more slowly but I don't think that's what we'll see.
     
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