Are the Blazers better with Brogdon instead of Dame?

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Blazers are better with Brogdon instead of Dame?

Poll closed Dec 5, 2023.
  1. Yes - Brogdon helps the Blazers win more than Dame

    20.9%
  2. No - Dame is better

    79.1%
  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    Gladly! But not Dame.
     
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    Ok, let's go with the assumption you have made: Last year, the Blazers won 47% of the games Dame played in. I'm going strongly take the under on Brogdon's win percentage this season being under 47%. I continue to say the question is silly because Brodgon is a bench player on this team and Dame was the clear #1 option. The roster is different. The sample size is incredibly small this season.

    If we want to debate if the franchise is moving in a better direction because of the players on the team, their contracts, and future assets, I think there is plenty to discuss. The Brogdon vs Dame part of the question makes little to no sense.
     
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    For those ready to point to our defense being much improved 6 games in, here is our defensive rating 14 games into last season (with Dame):

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    Perhaps reading the multiple responses where I said Dame was better would help. Again, the title was not, is Dame better than Brogdon or vice versa. It's, the Blazers are better..... and ends with a question mark? And yes, all of the pieces that came over could have been reference but that would have made for quite the long title.
     
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    I've heard Nurk was Dames boy and wanted nothing to do with Ayton. Portland was offered Ayton last season.
     
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    Yeah.

    too many other variables. could debate and go in circles. I’ll just say pdx had no chance of winning last year, i had no idea where they were going as a franchise, and i feel better knowing there’s a direction now. and I like the collection of potential.
     
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    If the question was simply if the Blazers are better moving forward than they were a year ago and it wasn't about two specific players, why would the two specific players be mentioned, by name, in the question? Do you think the names were included by accident?
     
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    Here's a hint. When it was made, Brogdon was the best PG that happened to be on the team and was the obvious counter to Dame. I suppose he could have listed any new player, but Brogdon is not the PG. NO ONE said he was better than Dame. Perhaps they could have just left Brogdon off as you say, but Dame is the main player missing.....while there are a list of players that were added.

    And never mind. Keep going on if you'd like. It seems pretty obvious what the intent was since it was a question about the team and not a question about who was better, MB or Dame.
     
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    Thanks for the hint, tips. Also appreciate you determining what ST meant.

    I'll continue to read the question as it was written, not as you feel it was intended. "Are the Blazers better off with Bogdon instead of Dame?" The answer is obviously no and it's not even close, for the reason you listed! Even the results of the poll aren't close.
     
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    Fine....but it is asking about if the Blazers are better, not if Brogdon is better than Dame. That is not a 'feel it was intended'. Enjoy. And as for "not even close", this team will win just as many playoff series as the Dame led Blazers in the last 4 years....so perhaps it is closer than one might think.
     
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    The 9 people who voted yes on this thread must collectively be suffering from amnesia. Wtf man. This shit is embarassing.
     
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    Who knows? The record isn’t what people should be bitching about. It should scheme, or lack there of
     
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    That's an interesting metric to use. Not based off game control, not regular season win percentage, not making the playoffs? It's playoff series wins? You know hoops TB, so I'll assume what you're doing at this point is purposely disingenuous for entertainment reasons only. And for that, I tip my cap, Nate is rubbing off on you!
     
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    Illmatic99, you don't understand what the OP meant.
     
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    Not in the least. Your quote was, "Are the Blazers better off with Bogdon instead of Dame?" The answer is obviously no and it's not even close..."

    Well, if neither team wins a playoff series, or doesn't make the Playoffs like the Blazers did the last 2 years, how is it "not even close"? Anyone who doesn't make the Playoffs in this expanded Playoff format, is trash. Is one piece of trash a little stinkier than the other? Perhaps. But "not even close", I will just agree to disagree.

    And still, my entire premise was the title being about "The Blazers are better....? No where does it say Brogdon is better than Dame. That has been my point the entire time. The responses have had little to do with that. I will excuse myself from this as now you have chosen to throw around personal accusations.
     
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    My entire premise was about the title being about "....Brogdon instead of Dame?" See how it works when you only include half the title?

    But you are excused. I have forgiven you for your previous snarky responses, I didn't take them personal.
     
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    Forgive me for not reading past the idiotic title
     
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    who tf voted yes??
     
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