Politics X sues Media Matters over report about ads appearing next to Nazi posts

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Trump being racist doesn't prove Musk is; my point was that sometimes racists praise themselves for saying they oppose racism in the abstract while promoting racism in the real world. When Musk references anti-Semitic filth as "the truth" I fail to see how anyone can call it anything but what it do clearly is. I am somewhat flummoxed as to why posters here, sane ones, are so invested in trying to deny Musk promoting racism.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I simply didn't see it as promoting racism. If all that was done is what I posted then it was Musk agreeing with something a post said. And clarifying that it was not intended as racist, and imploring people to stop with racism.

    If there is more to it I'm open to changing my position. I just haven't seen it.
     
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    I think the term racist is used to easily. Now thats just my opinion, now watch someone accuse me of being racist.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Observations, not assumptions.

    He's not, unless his goal is to build an "everything app" that has only incels, Trumpists, and Nazi's as customers.

    I won't buy anything from him now. I'm certainly in the target demographic for Tesla and Starlink, but those are off the list for me, and surely many others.

    He tried to walk it back when he got blowback from advertisers. That's not indicative of anything.

    And this is hardly the first offensive thing he's said or done.

    You give a huge amount of weight to his attempted retraction, I give more weight to his original statement, because it fits entirely in with all the other things he's said and done in the last couple of years.

    barfo
     
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    Even an everything app with only those demographics would be much further along than trying to start from scratch.

    But again, I don't expect this to be successful.
    Completely understand this stance. I can't see myself buying his stuff either. His companies are not big on customer service from what I can gather.

    People get offended about everything. I'm not overly concerned with that.

    What other racist things has he done? Maybe I've just missed them...
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ok, you are a rapist.

    Happy now?

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, if nothing offends you, then I guess I can see why Musk's behavior doesn't offend you.

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    gee thanks. How non rapist/racist you are for a pirate.
     
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    It's interesting that you can't have a conversation about this without making these kinds of statements.
     
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    I don't think calling names in general is conducive to compelling conversation.
     
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    I have a multi race family and we have good discussions from time to time on how the grandkids are being raised to not be so quick to judge others and be compassionate. How to become friends with people regardless of race, religion, sex orientation and even politics.
     
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    Is that really interesting?

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    Yes. Especially as it relates to your ability to apply logic to this topic.
     
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    Same, except I don't have grandkids yet.
     
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    How the FUCK is saying it's true that Jews are carrying out genocide against white people NOT racist? That Jews are destroying America by supporting immigration of people of color NOT racist? I have tried to keep my temper but having vile pro Nazi shit goysplained to me as not anti-Semitic is pretty fucking hard to NOT explode over. And don't anyone fucking tell me I am too quick to take offense.

    I will believe asshole Musk walked back when he takes that shit down permanently.
     
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    Hmm, ok. I'd say that

    If nothing offends you, then Musk does not offend you.

    is a pretty logical statement. Of course the premise might not be valid, but the conclusion does seem to follow if it is.

    barfo
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    100% this. Your anger is warranted. There are zero excuses for Elon's behavior, or for excusing it, as a third party.
     
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    So again, I didn't see him say that. I'm sorry if that offends you. I've asked for clarification or screenshots of him saying these things and nobody has shared them to me and I'm unable to find them.

    If he said these things inprint on the internet I find it hard to believe it would be difficult to find screenshots of it. For example, there is never a shortage when Trump says stuff like that.
     
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    Except I didn't say that nothing offends me. You took what I said to an extreme in an attempt to support your being offended.

    Seems relevant to the point of being interesting. I'll have to take that into consideration when reading your claims about others.
     

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