OT Derek Chauvin, 45, is found guilty on ALL three charges

The facts are often times contrary to mob opinion, and after the incident, any push back against the murder narrative was verbotten. In this case the media had a hand in shaping public opinion. And I've found most people are not capable of seeing around that.

 

Not according to expert testimony.

Then there should probably be more murder convictions.

Police training must change. They need to deescalate first. There was no reason at all to physically detain Floyd. He was not a threat to anybody.

He shouldn't have been in the vehicle. He should have been standing next to it, if anything.

See above. He was killed by lack of oxygen, not due to fentanyl. According to expert medical testimony.

Or they just listened to the evidence and made the logical decision.

Disagree 100%

I don't want police treating nonviolent citizens that way. I don't want individual police having the authority of laying their hands on anybody for any reason other than that person has harmed somebody or is in the process of attempting to harm somebody.

 

Should I believe facts? Or Candace owens and Kanye?

 

George was very intoxicated, and yes, the levels of fentanyl in his blood stream was at a level known to be lethal. It was probably the hold in combination that killed him.

The neck hold is something officers have been trained to use, including the Minneapolis PD. (there are training manuals that prove this. It's normally not a lethal move except for in those who are intoxicated. You can see a video of officers accidently killing a many named Tony Timpa in the same way in 2016. If Tony Timpa had been black, we may have had BLM riots in 2016, but because his skin color happened to be white, it wasn't a national scene.

They had Floyd in the car, but couldn't control him. He kept asking over and over to be held on the ground. So they put him in a hold called "maximal restraint technique". Something they were trained to do, and call an ambulance 30 seconds after getting him on the ground.

It unfortuneatly took 30 minutes to showup.

Derek Chauvin should have gotten him up sooner in hindsight....but murder? You can't possibly make a rational argument that this was murder.

 

That comes from the autopsy performed by the county Medical Examiner 12 hours after his death, Dr. Andrew Baker. He found no evidence that the knee had caused damage or asphixiation.

Floyd had extreme hyper tension, 75% of one of his arteries was blocked, he had high levels of Meth and Fentanyl in his system, mixed in with the stress and exertion of the arrest.....really bad combinations.

 

Another fact: MRT was in fact taught to Minnapolis police officers. There is ample documentation to prove it, plus the testimony of many officers. The police chief lied on stand to cover his ass. The documents proving otherwise were not allowed in court.

 

Makes total sense.

Yep. Sounds like murder.

 

It was not using his full weight. The fact that you can see both of Chauivn's feet on the ground prove that wrong. Also there was no damage to Floyd's neck, not even brusing. Also the angle from the body cam makes it look more like his knee was on his shoulder blade area. If you're really being choked you pass out in seconds.

I'm not making any argument as to if the technique is good or not. I'm just stating the fact that officers were trained to use it. It doesn't cause death unless there are other issues.

Based on how much meth and fentanyl was in his system, coupled with Floyd's heart issues and exertion, it's unknown how much role that hold played at all. Let alone Chauvin INTENDING to kill Floyd.

This whole thing is a sham.

 

Why was this angle not allowed in court? Seems like a very corrupt trial to me. Allow in all the evidence.

 

It was enough weight to kill him. People have issues, so police shouldn't be physically forcing them to do anything unless they are an actual threat.

The police made the decision to put this non-threatening individual in a situation that killed him, forno reason other than to act tough.

Absolutely unnecessary.

Murder. Keep your hands off people.

 

Nope.
1. It's unknown if the hold contributed to his death. It was not, according to the autopsy.
2. Wether or not it contributed, there is still the issue of intent, which is needed for a murder charge.

 

It is known. Expert testimony was that the hold contributed.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...e-floyd-not-enough-to-cause-death/7239448002/

And I don't care if it was specifically murder. Dude needs to spend a ton of time in jail. He plead guilty to depriving Floyd of his constitutional rights, causing his death, as well as depriving a 14 year old his constitutional rights, causing injury.

Not acceptable. At all.

Let that be a lesson to all asshole cops.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

 

That's not the way our justice system is supposed to work. "I don't care if he's guilty of murder, convict him anyway because I don't like what happened." Everyone also has a constitutional right to a fair trial by an unbiased jury (not one who is intimidated by a mob, not a trial were crucial evidence is not allowed.

A person in George's state could have easily OD'd by taking that amount of drugs plus exerting themselves in any way. Again, the autopsy showed no sign of damage to neck or asphixiation.

Yet the narrative out of the bat was "racist cop murders black man in cold blood".

So Floyd asks to be held on the ground. The officers do so and immediately call an ambulance, then at some point say, "forget this, let's just kill him on video". To say the intent to murder was proven is absurd.

 

So I’m making a list just cause….. want to make sure I know who to tell my kids to stay away from.

People who…..
Voted and support Trump
Don’t believe in Global Warming
Thinks guns are the best
Believe women shouldn’t have a choice on abortion…..
Believe COVID was a hoax by the liberals
Think Trump and his crew had nothing to do with Jan. 6
….are usually also Beaver fans.

 

This was a good write up by a Doctor who was called on by the family to examine the case. He gives a rational argument for why Floyd did not die of a fentanyl overdose, and neither was it simply due to Chauvin's knee, but rather it was the combined weight of officers on his back for so long, it was a slow suffocation. I can buy this argument, they were on so long after he was limp. I think perhaps in some kind of ego match with the crowd.

But this would be a manslaughter charge of some kind, but then you'd have to get past the fact that they were trained to do this (through probably not for so long). Still don't think it was intentional or that so much evidence should not have been admitted.

The officers were convicted before they stepped into the court-room.

The bigger story of this situation is why so many politicians and the media used this to incite violence and racial division. One of the arresting officers was black, but this was hidden because of the racial narrative they wanted to promote.

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/george-floyd-did-not-die-of-a-fentanyl?utm_source=/search/%22george%20floyd%22&utm_medium=reader2

 

Wrong, I'm a Duck fan. But I don't dislike the Beavers.