OT Derek Chauvin, 45, is found guilty on ALL three charges

its not about what i witnessed its about what you would witness and learn. If you don't care to even try to understand both sides or all side of a situation, how can you come up with sound solutions and how do you expect anyone to take your opinions seriously?

 

Immediate solution is to stop violating the rights of civilians or trying to trick them into giving police an excuse to accost them. The crime isn't going to drop until the above issues are solved.

I have not suggested we let criminals run rampant. Anybody in the act of committing a property or violent crime can be arrested. Aside from that, people should be arrested based on a warrant. De-escalation and keeping peace should be the #1 priority of police officers.

 

The laws arent perfect. And its my opinion the constitution needs an overhaul to better address the world we live in today.

Doesn't the safety of individuals trump the search and seizure clause? I dont know. Im asking.

 

They have to be in the act?

some guy allegedly kills someone in a bar. Suspect then Walks outside and down the street. Cops cant forcibly arrest him until its confirmed he did it or not?

 

I can look at data based evidence of what has historically resulted in lower crime rates. This isn't difficult. I don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that the earth is round and know that we have landed on the moon.

 

No, the cops shouldn't just be allowed to go jump on a random guy because somebody was killed a block away. They can follow and try to interview him. If he isn't cooperating they can keep following him.

If the cop has evidence then they can arrest him.

De-escelate.

 

seriously? The earth round is a proven fact via math.
You think data gives you real world experience?
Sorry man. This is getting wacky to me now, you just went down some rabbits hole about the earth which has no context in thos conversation. Data doesn't prove situations. Thats why in basketball there are analytics and then there is they wye test. You are implying the data will answer everything and they eye test is meaningless.
I dont even know how to respond to that…

I believe real world experience/education is much more valuable than you it seems.

 

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

 

If you aren't interested in having a serious conversation we don't have to continue.

 

I pointed the guy out as a witness its not proven evidence but yes they should absolutely be able to confirm if its him or not, to avoid him doing it again. And if i were the suspect aNd wrongly accused id gladly allow a search to prove my innocence.

 

nice. Have you ever read the rest of that quote? Many people use it out of context all the time.

 

you think bringing up the earth is round is being serious? Lol.

 

Yeah, I'm sure everything would be fine.
Shooting of Daniel Shaver

 

Once again, we don't have to continue the conversation if you don't want to.

 

It was a offhand comment, not the crux of the discussion to have you fixate on it weirdly. There's a discussion on Chauvin and you're throwing in hypotheticals about your neighbor having a gun and an 8 ball, but the one of about the earth being round has you thrown for a loop?

 

Yes, my analogy of a neighbor is similar to the chauvin case. The earth is round????

 

I tried to post an npr link but it wont post for some reason. Here is another :

https://indianexpress.com/article/e...enjamin-franklin-liberty-safety-8697766/lite/

 

I think it's pretty clear what he meant.