Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

I'd trade Grant if we can get a couple picks. But happy to sit back and keep him until next year if we don't get a good offer.

Brogdon I'd probably accept a bit less maybe just 1 good FRP for. Or two if we take on a bad contract. He's going to be on an expiring deal in the summer and is older.

Happy to keep Brogdon too if there's no great assets offered. It's a nice position to be in that we're sellers in a market with so many buyers. But we have no urgency to get a deal done soon as both guys are great productive vets. That's just a great bargaining position to be in to extract maximum value.

If Scoot was a ROY level stud I'd be more inclined to explore Ant trades. With him looking very poor, yes in a small sample size, I'd hold off any such trades unless we're getting a haul for Ant. Scoot might ultimately be best as a career backup, and Ant might be exactly what we want at starting PG next to Shae. Too many unknowns and this team is to far away from contending to be certain about how all of our youth fits. We need more time to evaluate that, hopefully everyone gets healthy and realizes more of their long term potential.

So glad that we are in a position to explore these long term opportunities and dont have so many underperforming old vets on overpaid contracts with shitty draft picks.

 

For me, the minimum on a Brogdon return should be a 1st, plus filler that Chicago would want so we can get our 1st back, essentially 2 1sts. Injuries closer to January will make teams more desperate, I think we’ll end up getting trading him at our intended price at the deadline.

I’m with you on Grant. Unless we find two forwards who can start that we are confident can become better than Grant, trade him. Right now, there is no such forward.

 

We do not need to get the pick back from Chicago. There is no reason to be trading our pick in the near future and it converts to a second round pick in 2028. At best, it is never a lottery pick.

Grant would be a great fit right now in Golden State. Too bad for them we have incentive to not help. Would love to trade them for Kuminga though.

 

I'd imagine there's still some pretty bad blood bubbling between the two front offices...and maybe even ownership. Of course, Bob Myers isn't the Warriors GM anymore, so maybe.....

Warriors do have their 1st round picks available in 2026, 2027, 2028. But they are also looking at this, in terms of their core+:

Stephen Curry 35
Klay Thompson 33
Chris Paul 38
Draymond Green 33
Gary Payton II 31

so I'd imagine they will be real reluctant to mortgage two of those picks

as for Kuminga, I am honestly baffled how he became so highly valued in this forum. I have seen him play several times and have not been impressed. He's not a good rebounder or passer. He's not a good shooter. Look at the regression of his advanced numbers:



obviously, a small sample size this season, but the trend-lines in PER, TS%, Reb%, Ast%, Winshares, and BPM are all pointed down. And that he's under 68% as a FT shooter isn't a sign that normally points to improvements in overall shooting

 

The age of the roster would be the reason for mortgaging future picks. Think they made their decision to run with this group when they resigned Green then traded for Paul. I would not be surprised if they try to make a big move before the deadline with picks plus Paul and/or Wiggins.

With Kuminga, he is still young. I can only speak for myself when saying I am not valuing him much at the moment. It would be buying low and giving him a change of scenery.

 

yeah, I suspected that

I think Portland already has a Kuminga-similar player in Camara who is a better rebounder and defender; and Camara is signed for 3 seasons after this one while Kuminga only has next season before he's due a new contract

 

Jerace Wallace isn't getting any PT in Indy but I still love him. Do you think we could get Indy to send us Wallace and send Hield to the Nets who would send us a first (PHX 2025) with Jerami going to Indy?

Indy doesn't have enough actual forwards and they could use another reliable scorer who doesn't hurt their D.

 

Taylor Hendricks is in the G-league for Utah. He doesn't have the all-around game as Jarace, but he's a shot blocker who can hit 3-pointers.

 

Saw a suggestion some liked on RealGM that basically boiled down to

Sacramento out: Barnes, Davion, 1st
In: Grant

NYK Out: Fournier, 1st
In: Barnes, Davion

PDX Out: Grant
In: Fournier, 2 1sts.

I don't love it. I mean, more 1st is nice, but I don't think Grant is that bad of a contract, personally, and he gives us a reliable vet for when our offense gets bogged down, much the way Simon will when he returns. Yes, Scoot and Sharpe are the future, but I want them developing alongside actual NBA players, not G-League level talent.

 

If that trade were to go down, take NY out of it. Agree with you though and would pass since we do not need more low 1st round picks and it could hinder the development of our young roster.

 

Is Grant even a "Bad Contract?" Right now he's shooting 42% on 3-pointers and getting 23 points per game.

Michael Porter Jr is a similar power forward (more rebounds, fewer free throws and points) and he's making $33.3 million this season and $35.8 million next season.

(Blue is Player Option.)

 

Right now one could argue that Grant is underpaid......he is playing really well. Probably too well to sustain on offense.

 

This should work at the deadline.

To GS:
Grant
Kleber

To Dallas:
Thybulle

To POR:
Chris Paul
Kuminga
1st from Dallas.

Then work out a buyout or another move for Paul.

The guy I've been wanting to add desperately is Kuminga. He can't catch a break with Steve Kerr. Not allowed to make any mistakes and has his minutes jerked around every game so he's unable to develop. They could use some wing depth and Grant could help.

 

I would not consider Grant a bad contract. You could argue that he will not be living up to $36.5m at 34 if he opts in, but by then, it is just an expiring contract so who cares.

The figure isn’t really what makes the contract bad, it’s the 5 years. But even then, he’s producing more than Tobias and making significantly less than the Tobias contract. So he’s not even in the top 10 for worst contracts to me. VanVleet is making $40m+ for the next 3 years.

 

You’re seriously underselling Grant here…

So GS is going to get Grant for salary dumping an injured vet and a dude they barely even play? I also see Dallas having a hard time giving up a 1st for Thybulle right now when they are playing well. I wouldn’t like this at all.

If Warriors want Grant, I’d want Kuminga, CP’s salary, AND a future lightly protected 1st, ‘26 for example. We’d be giving him away if we came away with just Kuminga, imo.

 

Not in love with that deal honestly. The only reason I’d like this deal is if Cronin has an idea of a valuable vet that he can overpay to be a culture guy for the next couple of seasons. Otherwise, this would just a salary dump move.

The two 1sts is nice though, and from two teams you’d want 1sts from. Even after all these years of losing, they’ve really only come out with Fox, Murray, and Sabonis (at the expense of trading Hali, still a mistake imo) which still isn’t a core that can really compete imo. Knicks could be a star away from competing, but it has yet to happen still. So a top 10 protected 1st from SAC in ‘26 and a top 10 protected 1st from NYK in ‘25 are fun, but I’d be more interested in seeing if a team is willing to give up their young forward for an immediate upgrade.

 

I think Hield and Brogdon should get both ‘28 and ‘30 1sts from Miami, unprotected. And they might have to do it if they want to keep up with the Bucks and Celtics this season. Philly seriously jumps them too if they can land another star for what they got from the Harden deal.

I’d love to seriously work it out with the Heat and try to make it fair for both sides. We’ve already created this huge problem in the east by trading Dame to the Bucks, and Cronin has continued to milk that situation perfectly by trading Jrue to the Celtics. The Jrue trade process was very amicable, and we came out with a great deal. Cronin literally has his fingerprints on the hierarchy of the eastern conference, that’s actually kind of crazy.

The Heat are in the thick of things with Philly and Orlando, who both just look like they have more talent. But I do think that Brogdon and Hield (and maybe other filler) in place of Lowry and/or Robinson would put them in 3rd or 4th in the conference for the next few seasons while Jimmy is still in his competing years.

 

Thybulle is not allowed to be traded to Dallas until after July 2024.

Also, I think you're selling low here. You have an irrational love for Kuminga (so you're overvaluing him).