Oregon Ducks 2023!

The Brand? Ha Ha ha that makes it so much better.
My Alma Mater is pretty much gone and the other Oregon School has a nice "Brand".
This season has really been pretty bleak.

 

Why do you say this?

Oregon has the stronger brand.

Superior resources/NIL.

Superior recruiters on staff.

 

Interesting response. There is that word "Brand" again.

 

You still have to wonder what happens if Alabama wins?

 

Because brand matters - in recruiting - in conference realignment.

LeBron James kids were wearing Ducks stuff at one point because of the “BRAND”.

Interesting LACK of response on your end.

 

I can’t stand UW probably more than any other college sports teams.

Their coach seems likable though.

 

LOL...geeeeezuzzz...are you channeling Digital Dam and John Canzano? Are you suffering from deranged-beaver syndrome?

Oregon was 'doomed', doomed they said....after Chip Kelly left. But in the 10 non-Covid years since that happened, Oregon won 10 or more games 6 times and 11 or more games 4 times. They won 4 Pac-12 championships and 2 Rose Bowls. Oregon finished 10th in the Pac-12 in 2016 with a 4-8 record, then fired the coach. 3 years later in 2019, they won the Pac-12, the Rose Bowl, and had a 12-2 record, and the Willie Taggart fiasco was part of that 3 year rebuild

if you honestly believe the game last night is going to alter the trajectories of recruiting, you don't know much about recruiting. That's not how it works and it's not how it has ever worked. The outcome of a game doesn't do that. Just about every recruit out there has experienced a difficult loss. They understand the reality.

the last time Washington won the Pac-12 was 2018; Oregon finished 4th. In the 3 recruiting cycles following that, Oregon finished first in the Pac-12 in recruiting rankings all three years. Washington finished 2nd, 2nd, and 4th. In the current cycle's recruiting rankings, 247 lists Oregon & Washington in the Big-10, along with USC/UCLA. Here's the current year's Big-10 ranking:





now those will shift, a little, between now and the two NLI days...they always do. But Washington isn't going to catapult way up while Oregon sinks way down. Kids who have developed relationships with coaches and schools aren't going to suddenly say "loser' and flip their commitment from Oregon to Washington. For chrissakes, right now, Rutgers is out-recruiting Washington

Nope...it isn't a high profile loss that alters recruiting. It's the loss of coaches; head coaches and assistant coaches. Oregon had Dante Moore committed for months last year. But when Kenny Dillingham left for ASU, Moore flipped to UCLA. And guess what, he's in the transfer portal now (or will be in two days)

Kalen Deboer is a great coach; and an average recruiter. He caught lightning in a bottle with Penix and the Washington receivers; and his system exploited the biggest weakness the last 2 season of the Oregon defense and that is the Duck safeties. No excuse...in 13 months Washington beat the Ducks by 3 in Eugene, 3 in seattle, and 3 in Vegas. It's a small hump that Oregon was unable to get over. Kudos to the Huskies. Oregon has a Washingto problem right now. But they had an even bigger Washington problem in the 80's and 90's. Then, they won 12 in a row, and 16 of 18 against the Huskies

Oregon will be fine; just have to process the latest failure

 

Man. That stunk…

 

Yeah, I pretty much disagree with everything you're projecting moving forward.

The recruiting rankings for the next two seasons do not suggest players are wanting to go to Washington instead of Oregon moving forward. DeBoer didn't recruit any of their current elite players out of HS. You could've said the same thing about Helfrich after year two as you are saying about DeBoer.

When you look at the returning offensive and defensive line talent, Oregon is WAY ahead of Washington. They're pretty close to Ohio St, Michigan, and Penn St in regards to young talent in the trenches. Oregon will be in the top third in the trenches in the B1G next year. Washington will not.

Losing by 3 points to a team that had 29 5th and 6th year seniors playing this season, when Oregon had the 4th youngest roster in college football, isn't some crazy deal to me. Yes, I expect Oregon to take a dip because it'll be hard to replace Nix, Franklin, Dorlus, and Burch. Washington also will be having to replace Penix, Odunze, McMillan, Trice, ZTF, and others.

I'd gladly bet anyone that Oregon will win more games than Washington next season and I'd double that bet for the 2025 and 2026 seasons.

 

Agree with everything. Though Ty Thompson vs Bama would likely be very very ugly.

 

I listen to several Duck podcasts and they broke it down pretty well.

Oregon was just beaten soundly. We lost some key defensive guys, but that doesn't excuse the poor play on offense.

The biggest coaching mistake of the game was sticking with Bucky. I don't know if he's hurt, but James was CLEARLY outplaying him and everyone knew it. The various media members were perplexed about why they kept going to him. It's almost like we were so focused on getting Bo the Heisman that we stopped going to the run, which is what got us here in the first place.

One pod thinks we need to focus on our safeties specifically going into next year.

 

The two things that really lost us this game:

1. We could not stop the run.

2. We should have gone to James more.

Obviously Bo didn't have a great game, but our inability to contain Johnson and get our own running game going was the difference between winning and losing.

 

These are the pods I like to listen to



Scoopduck / QB11 https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ioO5wLLlLPXeCfgLon8yH?si=0754953ac16e40be

Autzen Audibles with Matt Prehm