Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

Grant is being paid fair.

Grant is scoring more points than Tobias because he has a significantly higher usage rate. Harris is producing more rebounds, assists, and has a higher TS%. Admittedly, if you ask Harris to score more, you'd likely see a slight dip in his other stats. But ultimately, they are very comparable players.

 

This would ultimately be my wet-dream deal this deadline:



Ultimately, I think everyone gets what they want. Indy keeps picking the safe players and the results are always hit and miss, case in point: Duarte. They might be content with giving up Walker and a future 1st for Grant who can help them compete now. They will still have 2 1sts to draft a valuable contributor in ‘24 before owing that obligation in ‘25. Lotto protected in ‘25, top 8 protected in ‘26, top 4 protected in ‘27, unprotected in ‘28.

For the Heat, Brogdon is instantly a 10x upgrade over Lowry. They would also get off of Robinson’s remaining 2 years after this one, AND get Hield’s bird rights. Hield, if nothing else, spaces the floor for them and has been playing undersized SF for awhile.

For us, the reward is obvious. We would get 3 cheap years of Jarace Walker, who I compare very favorably to Sochan. Lowry is an expiring, who will still be a great veteran presence for the guards at the end of the season when they should be playing the majority of the time. We would have to take on 2 years of Robinson, but I would suck it up for more picks. He is an expiring in ‘25-‘26 that is easily tradeable. Prior to the draft, this is what our draft pick reserves would sit at.

‘24: (1) POR 1st, (2) GSW 1-4p 1st, (3) CHA 2nd (I’m looking at this as a late 1st)
‘25: (4) POR 1st, (5) IND 1-14p 1st
‘26: (6) POR 1st
‘27: (7) POR 1st
‘28: (8) POR/MIL 1st, (9) MIA 1st
‘29: (10) POR/MIA 1st, (11) MIL 1st, (12) BOS 1st
‘30: (13) POR/MIL 1st, (14) MIA 1st

We have to take care of the obligation to CHI before ‘27 for any of those swaps to convey, but that’s a whole bunch of picks for the future, and we would still have Ant on the squad. I would probably be done with accumulating picks and try to find an upgrade at the wing and make THAT the emphasis of any possible Ant trade in the future.

 

ah good call on dallas restriction.

i just hate the way kerr is messing with him. seems like a good buy low idea.

 

The thing is the Warriors aren’t in a position to sell low on Kuminga, making it difficult to obtain him. Kuminga and a 1st for either Brogdon or Grant seems like a serious underpay. I would trade Kris Murray and maybe a 2nd or 2 for Kuminga, but that’s what his value is, to me.

That doesn’t meaning Kuminga still isn’t an intriguing prospect though.

 

Lack of progress? Scoot has played like 10 games. Sharpe has only played a year of basketball since high school. Look up Giannis’ numbers early in his career. Look up Dirk. Give them some time. They have superstar potential. MB and JG do not.

 

BUMP

 

Wow would that be a mistake. How do we cash in and try to nab Jarace Walker?

 

He makes sense, but what would you want from them? Last night pretty clearly showed that we have a hole there when he doesn't play.

 

Alright, the original outline of your trade with the two 1sts instead of Walker is a pretty decent haul.

I was hoping to find a long term starting forward with trading Brogdon and Grant. But I did like what I saw from Kris last night. I wouldn’t want to have the 3 1sts this year and also the Hornets’ 2nd though, there isn’t nearly enough talent this year to require having that many picks.

What do you think Hield + a combination of the ‘24 OKC 1st, ‘24 CHA 2nd, and ‘24 ATL 2nd can bring back?

I’d like to trade Hield and the OKC 1st or CHA 2nd for an actual vet piece that can be here for a few seasons. I don’t really know who that piece would be. Maybe I just trade Hield’s expiring + the ATL 2nd and another future 2nd for our pick back and taking on Lonzo’s last year from the Bulls or something. Lonzo is actually a REALLY interesting piece next year if he can actually play. PG/SG/SF, and there’s no pressure to play when Ant, Shae, and Scoot are playing. He might be more of a SG/SF on this team since we haven’t found our starting SF yet. The Bulls hopes fell when this guy fell, his impact is enormous, and there would be no risk to taking him on.

Or we could find a the right player to fit into an $8m TPE and trade that player + Hield to the Heat for Lowry’s expiring and some 2nds. OR Hield + that player + the ‘24 OKC 1st for Lowry + their ‘28 top 10 protected 1st that becomes top 4 protected in ‘29 and unprotected in ‘30.

 

Two trades I came up with based on @CJ_is_Gone ’s proposed trade outline with Indy.

 

If Indy wants Jerami for me it would cost them Hield and Jarace Walker. I would route Hield to a third team for two first rounders or even one if it was good and only had expirings coming back.

 

does Jerami really have this kinda value?

 

I think depending on how Indy values Walker he could have this kind of value. The Pacers have a bunch of guards and play 6'6" Nesmith at the 4 a lot, they could use some length especially on D. They also don't have a lot of two way players and Jeremi is one. Jeremi also scores a lot more than anyone on their team after Haliburton.

I think Jerami could definitely help them win more now than Jarace and Buddy.

 

Buddy + '24 + '25 picks for Grant

Rui + '29 pick for Buddy

Grant for Rui + IND '24 + '25 + LAL '29 picks

Swap one of the IND picks to Chicago to get our pick back

 

Good luck trying to get even one 1st for Hield lol. Hield + another useful piece to a team could get a 1st I think, but you’re asking for too much when you’re asking for two 1sts. Sometime, I don’t even feel that Brogdon could fetch two 1sts unless it came with absolutely no useful players. Hield is a step down from Brogdon as a player.

 

Jarace Walker would definitely be the prize, but I’m fine taking back Toppin, Hield, the ‘24 OKC 1st, and a top 10 protected ‘25 IND 1st. Then try to either trade a combination of Hield, Toppin, Brogdon with the OKC 1st, CHA 2nd, and ATL 2nd to get an upgrade at the forward spot or obtain more 1sts.

 

Lakers are not giving up Rui AND a 1st for Buddy. Buddy’s value is more like DLo’s expiring next year + multiple 2nds.

 

I don't think there's any way a Jerami and Turner front court works. Worst rebounding team in the league.

I kind of think Brogdon would help out Indiana a lot. He'd be a major upgrade over Hield on defense and could help unlock Mathurin. I'm not sure he has the legs to play as fast as they like though.

I like the thought of sending Jerami and Murray to Sacramento for Barnes, Lyles, and a pick. Jerami would fit really well next to Sabonis and help their defense.

I think we could flip either or both of Barnes and Lyles and keep getting assets, plus they're both vets that play the right way. Lyles could play backup 5 for us which would be helpful, but I could also see him having value in Utah or OKC. I'd like to get Dieng or Agbaji as decent upside young guys that can stretch the floor, help with our tank, and low risk.

 

You might be right about a possible Grant/Turner front court’s rebounding issues. I’m not really interested the trade you outlinedz. Jerami is a better player than Barnes to me, and we just drafted Kris, so we’re downgrading from Grant to Branes to get rid of the mistake of drafting Murray just 6 months ago?

We could maybe facilitate a Siakam to Indy deal and send Kris + Brogdon for Walker.

We get: Walker, ThadYoung, Okeke (waive), Fultz (expiring), ‘24 OKC 1st

Indy gets: Siakam

Toronto gets: Brogdon, Hield, Kris, ‘25 unprotected IND 1st, ‘27 unprotected IND 1st, 3 2nds (from Magic)

Orlando gets: GTJ

 

K.Love is only 6'8"? lol