Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

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  1. BIG Q

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    Undertand, typo's happen. I'm with you about Scoot/Shae. I think that is the future backcourt for Portland. I want nothing to do with a three guard lineup with Sharpe at the three. Then we are under sized at the two and three. I understand some not wanting to move Ant, but he is an undersized two. Let him get his points now hoping a great deal presents itself. Portland will also have to make a decision between Camara/Thubulle. Of course Thybulle can block all trades this season. Then you have Brogdon and Grant and wether either will be moved. Roster is far from set even for this season possibly. Injuries have been both a curse and a blessing this season. Players have gotten rest while others get playing time. Should be very interesting the rest of the way.
     
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    In the scenario I gave, if the team was playing better with him coming off the bench...and he was unwilling to do so, how could it be anything else but selfishness? And as I said......I don't think he would have an issue with it.
     
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    Do you really think the world is that black and white? Com’on man. Conan O’Brien finally got his shot at being a late night host when Leno decided to hang it up. Leno decided to have an ego and come back, so NBC decided to put Leno on a show LATER than the Tonight Show, Conan was still the host of the Tonight Show. Conan decided to leave, seeing this as a sign of disrespect. Conan is the only late night host I’ve ever considered genuine, not selfish in the very least. Never considered Conan “not a team player”.

    That’s one example. If you shit on it, I’m not sure where to continue the debate without substance. I have yet to hear you list even five 28ppg guys (or even 23ppg guys in their early 20s) in the NBA that was willing to come off the bench in NBA history. This whole argument doesn’t happen if you could name more than a few, it just hasn’t happened.

    I understand you were giving a scenario, but the logic you laid out disregards any human emotion. It is the same way CEOs look at their employees as numbers and not humans. If everything were as simple as you laid out, thoughts like “only Lebron can handle Kyrie”, “gotta make sure DA feels involved”, etc would cease to exist. Gordon Hayward said his main reason for not re-signing with the Jazz was because they didn’t extend him after his third year. Never seemed like an unselfish guy to me.
     
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    I'd wait till Scoot is at least an above average starter to even think about trading Simons.

    I also don't agree with the assumption that a Scoot/Simons backcourt would be Dame/CJ all over again. They may compliment each other better.
     
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    Well, one 31 year old guard has been completely out of the Knicks' rotation for over a year now, while the other was 6th man of the year very recently, so maybe not all 31-year-old guards are the same?
    Of the non-Brunson guards you listed, only Flynn is a PG, and I doubt his defense is up to Thibs's standards, so you've basically made the case for the Knicks' need for another PG.
     
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    My point was that they are not going to give us 2 first-round picks for a backup PG.
     
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    Brogdon can play SG alongside Brunson as well as back him up.

    Knicks have a number of extra FRP. They aren't all super valuable though, as many have protections. So both your and the prior posters statements could be correct. The Knicks could be willing to give up two FRP.

    They could also refuse to give up two different unprotected FRP which would be vastly more valuable. Even one unprotected pick is likely much more valuable than two of those protected ones.
     
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    Yeah but then the fact that they have Hart, DiVencenzo, and Grimes at SG becomes a factor. I agree that they could use Brogdon, I just doubt they give us 2 FRPs unless an injury occurs before the deadline.
     
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    The PTSD from the Dame/CJ era is real.
     
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    It wasn't just Dame/CJ. It was adding even more small ball components to try and undersize and outquick opponents. The tiny Olshey Blazers kept running into bigger, stronger, defensive minded teams in playoffs and got squished.
     
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    I just saw a rando highlight of a Blazers against L.A. from about 4-5 years ago.

    It was:
    >Ant
    >CJ
    >a 6'5" Blazer i didn't recognize
    >Nassir Little (6'5") at PF
    >and 6'8" Carmelo trying his best to wrestle with the Lakers Centers.

    what the Smurf lineup ??
    I was out of state for the Melo seasons in Portland. I would have been on here bitchin' up a storm seeing Blazers getting tossed around like flapjacks.
     
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    That’s not what happened. Leno left the Tonight Show and moved to the 10 o’clock hour. Conan moved from the 12:30 hour into the Tonight Show and Jimmy Fallon took the 12:30 hour. Then Leno decided to return to the Tonight Show and they had grown to like Fallon at 12:30 so Conan was jobless (he didn’t quit, he was fired) until TBS made an offer. When Leno left for the second time, Fallon took the Tonight Show and Seth Meyers took the 12:30 hour.
     
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    We went to playoffs both Melo years. We haven’t been to playoffs since.
     
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    No reason to wait to trade Simons. It’s not like we’re winning with him. His trade value won’t be better than it is now. I love Simons but I think the sooner we start the Scoot/Sharpe Era the better. Not up to me though. We’ll see what happens.
     
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    Mostly because Leno was tanking hard at 10:30 and he was also hurting Conan's numbers.
     
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    No. Leno was on at 10pm. How was he hurting Conan’s numbers? Conan didn’t come on til 11:30 after the news.
     
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    Why do we have to choose between Thybulle and Camara? Depth is important. Has Thybulle complained about coming off the bench?
     
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    Why would Knicks trade an All NBA player for Grant? Sure, Brogdon is nice but not worth giving up Randle.
     
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    Which Wagner?
     
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    Because he was snaking top tier guests in the slot before Conan.
     

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