Oregon Ducks 2023!

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  1. Phatguysrule

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    I thought I was wrong one.

    Turns out I was mistaken.
     
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    you were wrong twie, not just one

    consonants are free you know
     
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    I hate autofill...
     
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    it's been mentioned how many 5th and 6th year starters Washington had. Here's a list somebody posted on On3:

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    WR Polk has already announced he's going to the NFL. And Washington people expect WR Odunze to go pro; and probably McMillan

    on the other hand, Oregon was one of the youngest overall teams in FBS
     
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    I was going to resurrect the 'Pac-12...11...10...9' thread but I couldn't go back that far to find it...got derailed at the 'Female Lillard' thread...

    anyway, OLive has an article this morning talking about the contract OSU/WSU signed with the MWC for both a scheduling agrement in football. AND, a possible 'raid' of the MWC for teams to join a revamped PAC conference:

    "The fee kicks in if the Pac-12 makes an invitation to join the conference and the school accepts before the two-year anniversary of the contract’s initial term expiration date of Aug. 1, 2025.

    The withdrawal fee begins at $10 million for the first school. It rises by $500,000 for each school beyond that. For two schools, it would cost the Pac-12 $20.5 million. For four schools, $43 million. Six would cost $67.5 million. If the Pac-12 were to acquire 11 of the 12 MWC schools, the price tag is $137.5 million
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    In addition, a school leaving the Mountain West must pay a termination fee of $5.5 million. The withdrawal and termination fees are waived if the entire 12-school Mountain West is accepted into the new Pac-12."

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    now, as I'm understanding it, the NCAA allows any teams remaining after a conference breaks up a 2 year grace period to keep the conference alive. After that deadline expires, the schools must be members of a conference to be part of the FBS. Those two years start on Aug 1, 2024 and expire July 31, 2026. Not coincidentally, this contract with the MWC appears to have the same duration. Pretty logical and the reasons seem pretty clear considering that the current MWC GOR with media expire at the same time in 2026.

    basically, it looks like the Pac-2 would be paying close to twice the exit fee's for MWC teams that abandoned the MWC and joined the PAC. That's understandable because the teams that did make the jump would be landing in a situation that had no guaranteed media coverage and revenue

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    the article also details the cost of the scheduling agreement for football:
    • An administrative fee of $1 million each from Washington State and Oregon State, payable by Dec. 5, 2023.
    • A general participation fee of $3 million, which helps fund operations, that is paid in four $750,000 installments, with the final payment due April 15, 2025.
    • A payment of $1.5 million for each Oregon State and Washington State home game involved MWC school for the 2024 and 2025 seasons. It’s an aggregate of 12 home games – three each season for Oregon State and Washington State – totaling $18 million.
    that's about 23M that the Pac-2 has to fork over to the MWC in order to land those schedules

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/...-schools-could-exceed-50-million-in-fees.html

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    as I've said before, I do have a pretty good friend who has some connections with the UofO. He hears some things, and sometimes he's willing to share. In this case, he may or may not have heard actual things about OSU/WSU that's floating around the UofO AD. I'd say he's probably speculating based upon rumors he's heard. Now, I'm willing to speculate based upon nothing. So there's all that

    so then, about 87% speculation says: OSU/WSU have a plan. That plan, at this point is based as much on wait-and-see and wishful thinking as it is on any solid foundation. The Pac-2 really doesn't expect any MWC teams to make the leap to the PAC before the MWC GOR expires on July 31, 2026. But they needed to dangle that kind of potential money for MWC teams in order to convince the MWC to make to a scheduling agreement. The MWC had the leverage in those negotiations

    further, OSU/WSU do not really want to add all 12 teams from the MWC to a revamped PAC because of the dilution factor and how that would impact potential negotiations for a new PAC GOR with media. AND, the PAC-2 is watching the ACC and FSU's maneuvering with much interest. The hope being that the ACC falls apart and that the Pac-2 can add not only the cream-of-the-crop from the MWC, but get Cal & Stanford to rejoin the PAC after the ACC possibly crumbles

    and all of this would percolate over the next two athletic seasons and come together prior to the 2026-27 season after the current MWC GOR expires

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    this following 'nugget' is not as much speculation as the above because the guy I know went to school with a guy who is currently 2nd in command of a MWC athletic department. The feeling there is that the MWC was a little bit blindsided by OSU/WSU joining the WCC for basketball. The MWC expected some kind of agreement between the Pac-2 and the WCC for Olympic sports, but felt that a basketball arrangement was informally connected to the football arrangement. So, while the bridge between the Pac-2 and MWC hasn't been burnt, there may be some smoke rising above the structure...but that's 3rd hand info so, grain of salt

    my own speculation is that OSU likely plans to go to the legislature asking for some bail-out money, They already essentially did that a few months ago. With the terms of this contract revealed, it's going to be harder for OSU to argue for bail-out money from Oregon taxpayers when OSU is shipping over 12M dollars to schools in other states
     
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    Lanning expected to be Bama’s top target to replace Saban
     
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    A coach with two years experience and no conference titles?

    I'm guessing Alabama will be shooting a little higher than that.
     
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    If Lanning gets offered the job, he should jump at it, even though its unlikely to end well.

    I'd bet that Lanning is not the next coach at Alabama, but it's not because I think he'll turn it down.
     
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    Never be the guy who replaces the guy

    If he isn’t the coach at BAMA it’s because he turned it down IMO
     
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    Lanning is as good as gone. UofO is a stepping stone for coaches with big time aspirations.
     
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    Dan Lanning has to be #1 or at least #1a on the list to replace Saban. You know he will get contacted. It is what it is, Lanning is a good coach for this new era of college football. Also there has to be 20 to 30 coaches who want the job and will jump at a moments notice to be at Alabama.
     
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    You couldn't blame Lanning for at least looking at the job and/or being interested.
    I do wonder if Bama would want to absorb the 20m buy out for a young coach that hasn't yet won a conference championship. I bet they will go hard after Sark.
     
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    You really think Alabama's #1 choice is Lanning?
     
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    $20 M is nothing to the Alabama football program.
     
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    I don't think the buyout would make Alabama blink. I think Lanning should take it if offered, even though it probably won't end well.
     
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