Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

"There are more than a couple people I’ve seen across various forums saying they would take Kuminga for Grant straight up". Kuminga is much younger and not on a crazy contract. So we'll probably get a better effort from him as he'd be playing for a contract. Jerami Grant is playing right now like he doesn't GOF.

 

You do realize that I implied that those people drive me crazy right? Kuminga, as it stands, doesn’t even guarantee he’ll be a better player than Grant. I’m not accepting that deal, and I’m certain Cronin will not accept it either, lucky for us. Trade the better player away, make their owed pick to us worse, sounds like a win for the dubs.

Talk to me when the ‘28 1st or the Hawks/dubs’ 2nds or Moody are in play as well with Kuminga. Kuminga alone + CP3 as a salary dump, give me a break.

Yeah, we all know vets don’t give a fuck when they’re on a losing team. That doesn’t mean you trade the better player for less than he’s worth.

 

Not to throw gas on the fire after it’s been put out but I would make an incredible GM, I’d make trader Bob look

not to restoke the fire but I would make a hell of a GM. I’m thinking a mix of trader Bob but I also have a chemistry degreee

 

not sure if this changes any gauges on Grant's value or not, but a comparison to Simons:

* Simons is averaging 23.9 points on 19.0 shots; Grant is averaging 21.4 points on 16.0 shots

* if Grant averaged 19.0 FGA/game like Ant, he'd be outscoring Ant 25.4 vs 23.9
* if Ant averaged 16 FGA/game like Grant, the Grant would be outscoring Ant by 21.4 vs 20.2

there are more value gauges than scoring obviously. Ant has a higher PER, primarily because he's better at assists than Grant is at rebounds. But Grant has length and the versatility at wing that most teams would value. Neither player is good at defense, but Grant is probably a lot closer to average than Ant.

 

There is a floor we must be above as well. We simply cant have all rookie contracts, which means we need to have some guys on the roster between 24-3o yrs old.

 

saw a proposal Grant to Atlanta for Bogdan, Okongwu and a 24 1st. I don't know anything about Okongwu? Those of you who follow other teams more, what is the thought on this one?

 

Okongwu would be a nice addition in talent and fit. I'm not sure he's worth his 15+M/year extension but maybe

would not want Bogdanovic. He's got a long term contract and Grant is a much better player

as for the draft pick, the Blazers already have 2 first's this draft, with one likely being in the 13-20 range. They don't need a 3rd pick that would also be in the 13-20 range. And it may be a weak draft

not really impressed with that trade

 

This is beyond a pipe dream for Portland. Grant doesn't have that much value.

 

portland doesn't need any more 24 firsts—they need 25-27 firsts—even if protected.

for me, grant's value is two future protected firsts and filler or one unprotected first.

brogdon is one future protected first and filler.

if the contract is toxic then you can add additional sweetener.

 

We'd still be slightly above the cap if we just dumped his salary outright. Why spend so much on the worst team in the league? You never know how a bad contract will hurt you down the road though. And Grant's value will decline as he ages.

 

Yes, that's why I pointed out there is a also a benefit in terms of salary. Maybe Grant will find new motivation on a winning team, but here, he's a lazy no defense, no rebounding chucker. If we can offload him for a prospect like Kuminga, it would be a coup. Maybe Kuminga won't amount to anything, but the same goes for any draft pick we acquire.

 

I’d personally take a 1st and a flyer on a slightly worse prospect for Grant, or 2 protected 1sts for Grant, over Kuminga and nothing.

I put more faith into the draft process, and 1-2 1sts just means 1-2 more shots. My intrigue on Kuminga hasn’t changed much since he’s been drafted, but I also didn’t ever think Kuminga would be drafted that high. So for me, the bloom is already off that rose. It wouldn’t be a good coup.

But we’ll agree to disagree.

 

All things considered, this would be a decent trade for us. It actually falls apart because Okongwu would be the sticky point. Also, having a third 1st is fine. On draft night, they can trade down with any of them, they can trade out of any of them, they can find ways to turn one or more of those picks into future 1sts. The draft is just so far away and we don’t know where a lot of other teams’ situations will be at the end of the season.

But likely, they would think this is too much for Grant. Hawks fans have said as much on Reddit.

 

The Mavs want Grant, but the only trade target I see on their team is Lively, and I don't know how in love they are with him.

 

Would you trade Sharpe for John Collins?

That's the level of trade you are suggesting. There's no way in hell Dallas would send Lively out for Grant

 

They’re very in love with him. He’s actually multiple times better as a prospect than Kuminga would be on this team. I would give up Grant for Lively and filler, and it’s Dallas who would laugh in my face and hang up. With GS, Lacob might actually stuff his face between my legs and stare into my eyes while he does it if I offered Grant for Kuminga and filler.

 

This x 1000

 

Sorry, I didn't know he was a hall of famer already, he's averaging 9 and 8. They don't really have anything else to offer, and they are the ones that are talking about wanting Grant.

And Collins was better than Grant 4-5 years ago, but I think Grant's stock is much higher around the league right now.

 

Neither Sharpe or Collins are HOFs either…lol.

Careful looking at just raw numbers. Doing stuff like that is going to make you think Kuminga is more valuable than Lively.

 

strong draft, weak draft, who gives a fuck

there are always players who turn out to be good, really good, great, but you need to pick the right ones

we need as much picks as possible and we need to hit on those picks