Bust a Scoot?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Plus they will have to be healthy.
     
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    I am not sure what Grant has to do with Shaedon and Scoot taking over. They don't play the same positions. Now if you want to continue to get even worse, for draft purposes, then it makes sense. (albeit painful to watch) But it seems to me that surrounding Shae with other offensive options will only help him.....so he is not double-teamed.

    I can see moving Brogdon because of the depth at guard, but until we have another scoring option at forward to groom, I think it would be unwise. And I am guessing we are at least another 2 years away from having his replacement.
     
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    It's Grant's 15 ISO's per game that can get on fans nerves. Even though Jeremi can connect with efficiency, I think Blazer fans expected more team oriented motion basketball with Scoot running point.

    Instead we sometimes get Scoot standing in the corner watching Ant, Grant, and Malcolm do their thang. Then Chauncey has Scoot guarding the gigantic players in the paint, so Jerami can flash around the perimeter, and get the occasional leak out in transition.

    When Scoot's not balling with the Blazers main guns, that's when we can see his talents shine. When he's the 4th or 5th option, and given PF duties on defense, the Blazers seem to run into a lot of problems, especially with rim protection.
     
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    Yeah if this was all intended to build the trade value of those three (Ant, Jerami, Malcolm) then it makes sense but if not it's been idiotic.
     
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    Well, they shouldn't be nervous about that. Most teams try to run a team-oriented offense until they need a basket with the shot clock running down. Then they turn to their best offensive players to create their own shot. Grant is not the problem. It's not like he dancing around the perimeter so he can throw up a 25-footer. Like you said his efficiency is pretty good.

    As far as Scoot, I am a fan, but until he shows he is capable of doing more on the offensive end, he deserves to be the 4th or 5th option. As for Scoot's "PF" duties on defense so Grant can leak out....if true (which I doubt) that is a Chauncey issue not a Grant one. What makes you think he wouldn't do the same with Grant's replacement?
     
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  7. Whyachi

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    It's a Billups strategy that won't change. Nor should it. Playing the PF out top on D works OK not very often, and improves the Blazers odds for a significant draft pick.
     
  8. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    As frustrating as Oden.

    Another absolute dud of an outing.

    I think clearing the way for him (trading Ant) will do wonders for his confidence.

    Why TF is he playing this much off the ball? Stupid decision.
     
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    Feel like we are ruining Scoot. He’s a wild mare who needs to run sitting him or playing him off the ball will destroy his confidence.

    watch how Pop handles Sochan.
     
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    chauncey has a really long leash with me given our expectations this season. but the one way I would be fully on board the fire chauncey train is if he continues this bullshit that he is with Scoot.

    we gave up our whole franchise for this kid to sit in the corner for 22 minutes while a guy we are about to trade next week almost plays 40 minutes?

    for fucks sake... have some common sense.
     
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    here's Scoot's dime to Drummond (wrong team) at the 2:00 mark of these highlights.

    I had to slow it down to see where this pass was supposed to go. It just looked weird. After some angular assimilation, I'm pretty sure Scoot thought the lady referee running down the sideline was a Blazer. The whoops pass might have tagged a streaking Reath right in the kisser. We can thank Drummond for getting a paw out, and preventing a Duop fat lip.

    anyways... Scoot got benched after this turnover

     
  12. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He was passing to Duop, but showed that he's still thinking he's better than he is. Not saying he's a bust, but it's not clicking yet. Still hasn't adapted to, or adjusted to, NBA level defenses.
     
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    clearly a pass to Duop. Duops hands were up and head turned, ready to receive. Bad pass though.
     
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    Ricky Rubio is in the news again because The Athletic interviewed him, and apparently he has asked Barcelona if he can practice with them, so I went back and watched his rookie highlights. Sigh. Let's just say I miss point guards who could pass.
     
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    That's what I'm afraid of. We've endured two tank seasons, and don't even known if we have 1 borderline all-star on our hands to show for it.
     
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    resistance is futile
     
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    how sure are we of this?
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Here's a look at Scoot's progress over this season -

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    Note: Game Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game. (40 is an outstanding performance, 10 is an average performance.)

    Breakdown:
    - 1 very good game (vs PHO, 1/14)
    - 4 good games
    - 15 okay games
    - 9 bad games
    - 8 terrible games

    The key is the trend line is going in the right direction.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I always wished we had given the Rudy/Sergio experiment a little bit more time to gel. Just felt Rudy could have shown like Petro did.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    And he's only 19 years old during all those games trying to learn the toughest position in the league. I think he's going to be alright.
     

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