Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    No, Putin doesn't want an all out war with NATO. And NATO doesn't want an all out war with Russia. That's why it's important for NATO to support Ukraine so Russia understands that they can't keep pushing the boundaries.

    Russia just wants to take what they want. There are things that are not in our interest to let them have. Like Ukraine, who we swore to defend when they agreed to disarm.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Don't you understand, Russian elections are so fair and wonderful that Putin just wants Ukraine the pleasure of voting in them.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Killing Putin would likely result in Russia breaking up further into smaller pieces. There is nobody left to keep it together. Putin has killed or run off anybody else capable.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I doubt that. Russia is a big country, there are many people both good and bad who are capable of keeping Russia together.
     
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  7. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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  8. Voodoo

    Voodoo An American hero

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    I love these useful idiots in this thread who think they’re so smart, when in fact they’re just being used. It’s really sad actually to see people getting used like this, shows how weak these members are. I miss the old school cold warrior tough republicans.
     
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  10. Phatguysrule

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    Seriously doubt it. They've had an incredible brain drain and don't have enough young people to care for their old. And that problem is only getting worse.

    Roughly 1/4 of the population has TB or HIV. 20% of the population doesn't even have indoor plumbing.

    Russia is going down in a big way, regardless of the outcome of this war.
     
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    I was searching for that video I watched a year or two about how their educational system has been decimated as well as their work force knowledge, among other things, but couldn't find it. I did find the two videos I posted, watched them and found them interesting enough to share in this thread.
     
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  12. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, you can't have it both ways. Either they have a functioning 'democracy', with elections and a succession order, or they don't and will be thrown into a chaotic power vacuum like Iraq after Saddam. Which is it?

    We've had multiple presidents assassinated, hasn't turned the US into Iraq. Because our system assumes our presidents aren't President-for-Life.

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    Just go fight in Ukraine already bud. They are taking Americans to fight. You won’t get turned down.
     
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    They are short artillery. Best thing we can do is apply pressure for funding and to supply more and better artillery.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Kennedy is such a stupid little shit.

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    Disgrace to his family.
     
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    He’s spitting facts and the people here who tiptoe around facts HATE it. You’ll see them personally attack Kennedy, but they will not address anything he said at face value because it’s irrefutable.
     
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    Sorry. I don't think Russia should be able to choose if Ukraine has dealings with NATO or if Ukraine joins NATO.

    Ukraine is not in NATO, but Russia has been aggressive to Ukraine for years.

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The war would end tomorrow if Russia went home.

    Yes, the war is unnecessary. Yes, Russia can stop invading it's neighbor at any time. Yes, Russia should absolutely do this.

    But Ukraine is right to defend themselves and I applaud their efforts and I hope the US continues to fund their self defense efforts until Russia withdraws.

    And yes. Kennedy is an idiot (or possibly a shyster), and I would never support him.
     
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  20. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Robert Jr. and I are the same age/generation. Vietnam made started making all this clear. Not to be flip, but it's old news. Defense spending is the biggest scam of all time. And our so called leaders are not really the ones pulling the strings. I can't see it changing any time soon, regardless of who is in the White House.
     
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