Politics Please say rock bottom is getting close

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Dumb ass waste of shit is really going to persuade. Everyone is a dumb ass except Road Ratt (and Trump?)
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Increase access to education and healthcare, including treatment.

    Eliminate abject poverty (homelessness).

    Remove the market and the cartels will lose power.

    As long as we keep up the way we are this will get worse.
     
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    I agree all this will be key but we need to also to come down hard on any Cartel operation. There will always be drugs in this society, but to allow the cartel to poison and kill, to allow this to continue on would be no different than allowing Russia to Invade Ukraine. Have you looked at the numbers of deaths caused by the poison they are peddling, it scary and something must be done. Just my 73 old opinion.
     
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    112K deaths in a 12 month period......Often Mexican drug cartels press these chemicals into pills, which are counterfeited to resemble pharmaceutical-grade medications for ADHD, depression, and pain.
     
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    We have laws against selling and trafficking drugs. Nobody is advocating that drug dealers be left alone or allowed to sell drugs.

    But they will be there as long as there is a market. There will be a market as long as we have miserable people looking for an out. As long as we have uneducated people or sick people who need to feel better.

    We've seen these problems solved before. Never by coming down hard legally.

    Emotional reactions to this kind of thing are always wrong. It always makes it worse.
     
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    This is true. People should have access to those drugs if they need them, rather than being forced to find it on the black market.

    Once again, emotional responses only make these problems worse and make the cartels more money.
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Why Is There A Homelessness Epidemic In The Richest Country On Earth?



    Homelessness is still on the rise, even under Biden.
     
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    That's ridiculous. Corrupt assholes.
     
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    Tax cuts for the rich.
    Guns everywhere.
    Forced birth.

    Republican platform.
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Voodoo An American hero

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    So basically the 2024 Republican national platform.
     
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    In fairness, the Democratic platform isn't all that much better. Both parties have been selling out the people for decades and this is how the empire falls. It's too paralyzed by its corruption to fix itself. No President can fix it even if they wanted to.
     
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    Well....tax policy isn't great but they do think women are smart enough to make our own health care decisions and that we all deserve the freedom to marry. And some common sense gun regulations, not enough, IMO. Saying no difference becomes excuse for backing Trump or at least saying it's fine if he becomes dictator, I mean, president.
     
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    There's a difference. I want to make that clear. Democrats are obviously better on culture war issues but many of those are distractions that both parties partake in because they don't want to actually make our lives better. So they have us going to war with each about which bathrooms 1% of the population can go into. Or who you can fuck or marry. Democrats are better. But by how much? Both parties take money from the same donors.

    In some ways, I applaud the Republican party. The leadership clearly didn't want Trump, but the people did. They didn't rig it with super delegates like the Democrats did against Bernie. Democrats keep saying democracy is at stake, but it was the Democrats in Florida who didn't allow other candidates on the ballot and didn't tell no one.

    Trump is a symptom of the dissatisfaction. He's the new Marion Barry. A vote against the establishment. People are begging for change and aren't getting it. I happen to think this project is falling apart regardless of whether or not Trump runs or not. Saying all that, Trump is a horrific individual. It tells you everything that the Democrats have such a hard time beating him.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's correct, of course, and I understand why people get frustrated. Our system allows only slow, incremental change.
    However, there's really no excuse for burning down the house just because the contractor isn't updating the kitchen fast enough.
    Adults are supposed to be able to deal with frustration in an adult manner. Not scream and break things to show how angry they are.
    American voters need to grow the fuck up.

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    "The Republican party gleefully endorses not just the worst person to run for president ever, but one of the worst people in America, so the lesson is that the Democrats suck."
     
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    What about those without a kitchen at all?

    I think it's easy for someone to say who has the luxury of comfort when there are real people suffering who see no change year after year. In fact, things are getting much worse in many respects. The system won't change as long as our politicians can be bought. Thus, the change we seek won't be enough.

    The country is paralyzed by its own corruption. It won't fix itself.
     
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    Your premise and answer are mixed up. Let me fix it for you.

    "The Republican party gleefully endorses not just the worst person to run for president ever, but one of the worst people in America, because politicians will do what they must to retain their power.

    The voters overwhelmingly want him, so they go with the flow. Those who have resisted have lost.

    When Trump beats a Democrat, so the lesson is that the Democrats suck."
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, if you think burning down your house because it doesn't have a kitchen makes sense, I think you'll find that the next time it rains you'll get cold and wet.

    Burning down the house won't fix anything. It will just make things worse.

    It's difficult to improve things here, but it's not impossible. It's much easier to make things worse, but it's not useful.

    There's always been corruption, there will always be corruption. You aren't going to 'fix' that until you can replace humanity with something better.

    barfo
     
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