Toronto Raptors center Jontay Porter subject of an NBA investigation into irregularities on betting

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Eh, i dont agree. The legalization is gambling isn't rooted in some magnanimous effort to clean up the game.
     
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    agree, they actually are incorporating gambling into their marketing approach & strategies.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I never said it was.

    Personally, I don't enjoy sports gambling, especially with teams that I love. Turns a nice win into a loss if they don't cover the point spread.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    My hope is that he was pressured into doing this.

    If this scheme is something him and his friends cooked up he's absolutely fumbled millions of dollars because he was on his way to earning a full time contract.
     
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    Assuming he legit threw games for bets - even if its only friends benefiting or such and not him directly - Yeah he needs some sort of a lifetime ban or somethin very close. Not sure what any other realistic option the NBA could even have of a different length.

    Yes Pete Rose got the lifetime ban and he was a heck of a lot bigger name than Jontay.

    If the NBA doesn't throw a huge hammer down they open up a risk of other players considering doing it. They need to make him an example. Can't really think of a worse thing for the integrity of the game - steroids give you an edge but your still trying to win. Sitting out games to get an under is shocking - even Pete Rose always claimed he only bet to win.

    I never thought we'd have an NBA player attempt this as they have such massive contracts doesn't seem worth the risk. I'd imagine there have been multiple or many college instances of this happening though but probably most were not caught. Smart how the NBA has been using analytics to search for this - that might be a big deterrent as well.
     
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    Legalization of gambling and the NBA pushing it is primarily to grab dollars.

    But I do think its a very good point that the legalization, monitoring, analytics, additional information could make finding these cases easier. So no I don't think this is an example of a side effect of more betting legalization. Might have been more of these cases years ago that just never got found. I can't imagine Tim Donaghy and now Jontay Porter are the only ones in NBA history to have been involved with bets.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    So, are those the only times people were making bets on his props? Did he ever cover his props? Possibly someone close to him with specific knowledge of his health was conspiring with others without his knowledge? I really hope so.
     
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    No wonder Michael Porter Jr. didn't attend the mandatory press conference last night.
     
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    Oh, no doubt the legalization of gambling, alcohol, marijuana, etc is about money more than anything else.

    Your assertion that a player being involved in some sort of point shaving or betting maniuplation is correlated to it becoming legal is I think where SPD and I would disagree.
     
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    Hopefully they are using this to look at the refs too.
     
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    If he got a great attorney early on seems like that should be his defense... Don't see how the NBA could prove otherwise..... Unless it's a large number of people involved and they all can corroborate a story against him.
     
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    The fact that he was the most bet upon prop that night, over a guy like Luka or LeBron or whatever, a guy many have never heard of—and the fact that the unders hit due to an irregular departure-that will be very hard to disprove.
     
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    Oh I certainly think there was betting fraud going on. But Jontay doesn't have to disprove anything, the NBA has to come up with the evidence. Now maybe he or whoever accounts the bets are under was carless or will rat him out.

    But if not it could be very hard to get that proof of Jontay directly being involved.

    I guess there's the chance as others have said it was someone close to Jontay with the info that made the bets or passed the inside info and Jontay was never aware. Thing is if this ends up being the story we might never know if that is legit or the coverup.
     
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    Id suspect there's been tons of these betting frauds not caught before. Remember some of the betting lines of who would be the #2 pick and such? We'd see crazy swings in the betting lines hours before the draft. Probably tons of times someone in a front office passed around the news of the decision and that eventually got to people making huge bets. Then we see it with the line drastically moving.

    I guess the difference here is a player possibly not performing his duties on the court.
     
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    this seems very, very unlikely. I understand the point you’re trying to make, btw, I’m just saying that I think the nba will be able to sniff this one out and will tar and feather the guy. (Even though there are likely others who have done something similar before undetected). jontay seems pretty sloppy. The discord screenshots… I mean, yikes. I’m sure the nba has already found more than we even know about.
     
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    besides those revolved around food?

    (for the record, I ain’t judging, FAMS!)
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    I know, let's let gambling websites sponsor our sport! What could go wrong?
     
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    Wanna bet?
     
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