Bogus! We are quietly doing Philly's lame "process"

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  1. Phatguysrule

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    I feel like Dame making public demands was too much for Cronin to handle. He couldn't get good deals with Dame publicly holding him accountable.

    I'm not sure if anybody could have gotten Dame what he wanted in that situation. But yeah. After a year or two of dealing with that I can see why Cronin would want Dame gone.
     
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    If it was obvious SGA was going to be first team All NBA, then why did the Clips trade him? I remember people saying the Clippers got Paul George without giving anybody up, meaning they still had Trez and Lou. People knew SGA would be good but not this good. Show be your post where you said SGA would be the best guard in the league.
     
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    Because they are the clippers.

    It was obvious SGA was gonna be a superstar. And im a very average fan.
     
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    Who did the Blazers get in the Dame trade that has the upside of SGA?
     
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    To get Kawhi...
     
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    To be fair, while the process hasn't worked for Philly, they got an MVP out of it. They had a team that SHOULD have been a legit contender when they had Butler. They never should have let him walk.
     
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    Embiid would have to stay healthy and put that team totally on his back to win the finals.
     
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    the 2025 top 5 pick .. ?
     
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    You mean by sucking so bad that we are a legit contender for the #1 pick every year? If so, we should probably throw in the 2024 top 5 as well...
     
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    It's really difficult to criticize a "process" that at least put them in a position to contend if they're healthy. When have we had that?
     
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    They Blazers did get a haul for Dame - zero regret on pulling that trigger.

    If anything I wish the Milwaukee trading version of Cronin could have been the Blazers GM for all the other stupid moves this franchise has done starting with that Clippers trade.
     
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    Totally understand OP frustrations, yeah I don't watch as many games.

    I do wish the team would try harder to win. I like that Ayton is playing lately, but what about Brogdon/Ant/Grant? I understood the tanking when Wemby is out there, but that isn't the case with this draft. Just push the guys to win and let the pick fall wherever it does. Even with vets trying we'd lose a ton of games.
     
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    If any of Scoot/Sharpe/Ant was having a good year I think Blazers fan excitement would be much, much higher. It's not the losing that bothers much of us, I expected and was totally willing to watch a ton of losses this year. But I wanted to see some potential and feel like we were making steps in the right direction. Maybe it would only be step 8 of 100, but I was eager to see the start of that journey. I thought I saw some last year with Sharpe and prior seasons from Ant. Instead I question now more than ever if any young player on this roster can ever be an above average starter.

    Even in the ZBo/Miles era they both showed more star potential than anybody on this roster.
     
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    Agreed.

    Although I think if sharpe can stay healthy he's our best shot.

    Jury is still out on Scoot.

    Trade ant ASAP. Those type of players are so boring.
     
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    nope....Brogdon, Timelord, the Warriors pick, and two picks in 2028 & 2029. That's not a haul
     
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    Further, as others have mentioned: Philly drafted like ass.

    Fultz and Simmons totally busted. Okafor was out of the NBA before turning 26. Missing on three top-3 picks in three years is rough enough, but they had so many picks that just were ... nothing.

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    The law of averages would seem to dictate them getting SOME good players out of all those picks, but other than Bridges (whom they traded on draft night) Jerami Grant is just about it other than Embiid. It's almost like they didn't know what they were doing in player selection. haha
     
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    It's easier to say in hindsight, but I thought it at the time: Portland should have moved Brogdon and Williams for future assets rather than holding onto them in an attempt to be mediocre. I know the front office had convinced themselves that those guys could team with Ant, Ayton and Grant and the young guys to be decent, but... that's not the way to do a rebuild, IMO.
     
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    Yep. Ant needs to be dealt as soon as we get reasonable return.
     
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    What's a reasonable return?
     
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