Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. jonnyboy

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    It’s great when single mothers have to work 3 jobs though. That’s 3 new jobs! Economy booming.
     
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    This is just a random statement that doesn’t mean anything and has no factual backing.
    What’s complicated are the meandering, loose justifications when trying to distance the Biden administration from their active funding of a genocide. If you look at it from a moral stance, it becomes alot less complicated.
     
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    It's my opinion, based on observations from a moral stance.

    For me, honestly looking at it from a moral stance is what makes it complicated.

    Israel shouldn't have to deal with constant attacks from Palestinians. However, Palestinians have very little control over their country, and before the recent attacks the general population wanted Hamas gone.

    In fact, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think the initial attack was an effort to goad Israel into a response that would force Palestinians to support Hamas in greater numbers.

    Israel should certainly not be targeting civilians. That's without question.

    Cutting off funding is tricky and could cost us the region if Israel were to fall (or be compelled to use nukes). Either of which would further destabilize the entire world.

    The way I would deal with it is the way we should have dealt with Afghanistan (IMO). Move American troops in to offer aid and and build bases, schools and hospitals. Surgically remove Hamas and other terrorist elements. Encourage Israel to help in all aspects.

    Offer military protection for those schools and hospitals. Encourage people to attend but do not force them to attend. Any attacks on those schools or hospitals or the people attending should be investigated and the perpetrators removed from the population.

    Remove the desperation from the system and educate Palestinians on democracy. Plan on being there for at least 30 years to defend schools and hospitals and build up infrastructure.

    Show them there is a better way. Win hearts and minds.

    Once again, it's more complicated than Ukraine. In Ukraine we just need to help them defend themselves without provoking a nuclear response from Russia. If we do that long enough Ukraine can win.
     
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    Groceries and rent won't be any cheaper under Trump.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Trump was advocating, in fact pleading, for NEGATIVE interest rates... What do you think that would have done to inflation?

    Do you think cheaper money for the wealthy would have made bread and rents cheaper? Because if so, I have a property you might be interested in...
     
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    I don't recall him calling me antisemitic.

    In fact, he never calls me at all. Guess he's too "busy".

    barfo
     
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    This reads like something from The Onion. No offense, brother.
     
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    Oh, that's just because you're one of the few who is content with ethnic cleansing and genocide.
     
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    None taken. It's pretty tough to offend me. I'd be happy to discuss any problems you may have or clarify any of my position you aren't clear on.
     
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    Your assumption about me is incorrect, but then so is your apparent belief that Biden has called anyone who opposes his policies antisemitic. He hasn't.

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    Talk about sweeping statements!
     
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    Condemning antisemitism isn't the same thing as condemning all protests/protestors.
    Unless you think all protestors are antisemites? I don't and I really doubt he does either.
    Of course, if you think no protestors are antisemites, then you have a legit beef with what he said.

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    Same. I'm so sick of people ignoring the absolute mess right now because of Trump.
     
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    Except nobody is really buying that sans the gullible folks at MSNBC and yourself. Check the polling on Biden's handling of the issue.

    He'd be the first self-proclaimed Zionist who doesn't think the protests are antisemitic.

    Unless you think he's lying about being a Zionist and he's just a good old fashioned racist.

    Either way, there's no leadership.
     
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    Leadership doesn't mean just agreeing with you, you know.

    It's not easy to please everyone on this issue. In fact, it's not easy to please anyone.

    As for polling, I'm sure he pays attention to it. Seems like something a politician would do, right?

    I think you are likely wrong about all Zionists thinking the protests are antisemitic.

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    You want us to ignore something that is sure to make the 'absolute mess right now' much much worse? How does that make sense?

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    Our priorities are clearly not the same. Mine is an unjust genocide.

    Yours is predictably Donald Trump.

    There's little more to discuss. Let's leave it at that.
     
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    For the record, all genocide is unjust.

    Who is more likely to negotiate a cease fire, Biden or Trump? Secretary of state is in Middle East and reportedly Israel is agreeing onore concessions for a cease fire. When asked about his plans for Middle East, Trump just says war would not happen if he was president.
     
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