Religion Mid East Religious War

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  1. Road Ratt

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    Cindy McCain must be antisemitic.
     
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    Your act is getting old.
     
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    You mean Bibi's and almost the entire Washington establishment? Really vocal with me but pretty hush when it comes to them.

    You know you don't have to read it if you don't want to?
     
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    No, I mean your sarcastic "they must be antisemitic". No one on this board and very few people anywhere have said any criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza or US policy is antisemitic. At the same time any time someone disagrees with you they are accused of being OK with genocide.

    I won't waste my time pointing out every time I have criticized US policy.
     
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    Sheldon Shape Well-Known Member

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    You have to be on drugs or just plain disingenuous after a number of bills passed suggesting otherwise. You're not a serious person. If you don't like my satire, you're welcome to not read instead of throwing a hissy fit.
     
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    I am not on drugs and go fuck yourself for saying so. When you have nothing but personal insults you have nothing worthwhile to say.
     
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    Attack me first and then claim victim. You're such a cutie.
     
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    Scoop: U.S. put a hold on an ammunition shipment to Israel

    The Biden administration last week put a hold on a shipment of U.S.-made ammunition to Israel, two Israeli officials told Axios.

    Why it matters: It is the first time since the Oct. 7 attack that the U.S. has stopped a weapons shipment intended for the Israeli military.

    • The incident raised serious concerns inside the Israeli government and sent officials scrambling to understand why the shipment was held,Israeli officials said.
    • President Biden is facing sharp criticism among Americans who oppose his support of Israel. The administration in February asked Israel to provide assurances that U.S.-made weapons were being used by Israel Defense Forces in Gaza in accordance with international law. Israel provided a signed letter of assurances in March.
    State of play: The Israeli officials said the ammunition shipment to Israelwas stopped last week.

    • The White House declined to comment.
    • The Pentagon, the State Department and the Israeli Prime Minister's Office didn't immediately respond to questions.
    Driving the news: The Biden administration is highly concerned Israel will invade the southern Gaza city of Rafah where more than one million displaced Palestinians have been taking shelter.

    • Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu released several statements in recents days saying he intended to order an invasion of Rafah regardless of whether Israel and Hamas reach a deal for the release of hostages being held in Gaza and a ceasefire.
    Netanyahu hinted at tensions with the Biden administration in a statement on Holocaust Remembrance Day issued Sunday.

    • "In the terrible Holocaust, there were great world leaders who stood by idly; therefore, the first lesson of the Holocaust is: If we do not defend ourselves, nobody will defend us. And if we need to stand alone, we will stand alone," he said.
    Behind the scenes: Last Wednesday U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Israel and had a"tough"conversation with Netanyahu regarding a possible Israeli operation in Rafah, two sources briefed on the meeting said.

    • Blinken told Netanyahu during their meeting that "a major military operation" in Rafah would lead to the U.S. publicly opposing it and would negatively impact U.S.-Israel relations.
    • A day later White House spokesman John Kirby told reporters that Israeli leaders understand that President Biden "is sincere" when he talks about the possibility of changes to U.S. policy regarding the Gaza war "should they move ahead with some sort of ground operation in Rafah that doesn't take into account the refugees."
    • White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said at a Financial Times conference in Washington on Saturday that the Biden administration made clear to Israel that the way it will conduct an operation in Rafah will influence U.S. policy towards the Gaza war.

    The big picture: Egyptian and Qatari mediators are still trying to reach a hostage deal between Israel and Hamas that would lead to a pause in the fighting in Gaza.

    • The Biden administration is deeply involved in the efforts and CIA director Bill Burns joined talks in Cairo over the weekend.
    • Hamas in a statement on Friday said it was reviewing the current proposal with "positive spirit" and was "going to Cairo in the same spirit to reach an agreement."
    While Israel waits for Hamas' response to the proposal, Netanyahu has issued several statements over the weekend saying he won't agree to end the war as part of a hostage deal.

    • Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant visited Israeli military forces in Gaza on Saturday and said Israel sees "worrying signals" that Hamas isn't going to move toward an agreement on releasing hostages.
    • "This means that an operation in Rafah and in other parts of Gaza will take place in the very near future," Gallant said.
    https://www.axios.com/2024/05/05/israel-us-ammunition-shipment-hold
     
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    I thought Genocide Joe cutting off weapons wouldn't effect Israel?

    https://www.axios.com/2024/05/05/israel-us-ammunition-shipment-hold

    They were supposed to be in Rafah today. They weren't. Could it be because of the weapons halt?

    Nah. As some others have said, Joe Biden halting weapons wouldn't effect what Israel does despite this and another former military official suggesting so. Hhmmm...
     
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    So the assault is over then!?

    That's great!
     
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    Evacuate to where???
     
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    Israel Briefs US on Plan for 'Ethnic Cleansing' of Rafah

    "A military invasion in Rafah would be Catastrophic... There can be no more 'evacuations.' There is no safe place to go," said Oxfam, calling for an immediate cease-fire.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/rafah-ethnic-cleansing

    An invasion of Rafah would drastically increase the number of Palestinian deaths.

    A summer of protests here in the U.S. and around the world will only give republicans, though rightfully so, fodder to attack Joe with in campaign adds. This will hurt Biden in the end. I hope democrats are comfortable in their certainty that Joe will win in November. After the 2016 debacle that told us Hillary would win in a "landslide", I can't trust their polls, nor any polls really for that matter.
     
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    Congressional Republicans deciding the Jews are behind campus Gaza protests because of course. This motley collection of anti-semites, Hitler admirers and white supremacists plan to hold hearings on anti-Semitism on college campuses.

    I am reminded of the time they held an all male hearing on birth control.
     
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    Heaven.
     
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    :-(
     
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    Unfortunately it's not so simple. I wish it were.
     
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    Imagine people saying that during the Holocaust. lol I don't agree. Let's call it what it is.
     
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    Cutting off Germany didn't stop them either. But that's about where the similarities end.

    Pretty much the rest of Europe were our allies. We didn't risk losing the entire region to religious fanatics by pulling support from Germany.
     

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