Look a little closer. His 3rd season with Chicago and his first season with Orlando were the same season. He's played 6 seasons total.
Not sure all four of those trades are realistic - but those are the type of deals I'd look for and I suspect there are a couple that could be done this summer then a couple during the season. Send all of Brogdon, Grant, Ant, Ayton to teams that can use them in a playoff rotation for picks/youth and eat overpaid contracts. Try to trade Thybulle/Timelord if they improve to get trade value. Try to flip any of the vets back that we get (Brooks, Adams, Barnes, Huerter, etc) I'd actually change one of those 2025 picks to 2027 lets say for example the Kings. After those trades the Blazers would have these picks; 2025 Own - Lakers - Denver 2026 Own - Brooklyn 2027 Own - Kings 2028 Own - MIL swap 2029 Own - BOS - MIL 2030 Own - MIL swap
don't pay attention to the 4+3 bullshit for 2020-21 as they are counting it twice his rookie season was 2018-19 after he was picked 7th in the draft....so: 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 2023-24 how many seasons is that?
Interesting to see what our rotation would be like after trading all those vets for picks; Scoot- Giddey Sharpe - Black Brooks - Huerter - Thybulle Barnes - Williams Adams - Reath - Timelord Looks to me like a similar 21 win team as we are now but with more youth, upside, and still might be able to flip a vet(s) for a pick. But we go from our current 9 future FRP to 13.
Orlando values Isaac, so they would not want to include him. I like Isaac, but I don't think he's the right target to go after for Portland. Orlando has enough cap space they could do the trade without him. I liked Black as a prospect in the draft last year, however again - I don't see a good fit for him in Portland. I'd rather get more 'compensation' via future draft picks than bring back either of these players. This 3-way with Memphis is much better IMO. I like this one, but I'd rather keep Grant for another 6-months to a year. He's the best scorer Portland has, and his services will be needed until someone else can step up. His trade value will likely remain unchanged for a while. This is okay, but I doubt either team does this. Sengun is the Rockets starting C. Adams makes a perfect backup for them. Rockets have no need for Ayton. I really don't think this is realistic. Too many moving pieces... I can see a Garland / Ingram trade straight across work for both Cavs & Pels. Mitchell/LeVert/Ingram/Mobley/Allen -> Their bench is such that they can minimize the time Mobley/Allen play together without requiring one of them to be traded. Garland/McCollum/Jones/Murphy/Zion
Was a type of deal I was interested in when we had Josh Hart and Dame but now it doesn't make any sense since we're going to be rebuilding a long time.
Interesting idea, basically Brogdon and Grant for Warriors overpaid contracts (CP3 Wiggins etc) but we get two of their picks. I'd do this: https://fanspo.com/nba/s/general/tr...-golden-state-warriors-gm-2024-offseason-plan
Grant is worth two picks alone. One for Brogdon. We get two AND we have to take two terrible contracts? Doesn't sound right. I'd probably rather have Kuminga than a late pick too.
If we could trade pick 34 and a future second (probably protected) to the Jazz for pick 29, then I think it might make sense for the Bulls to take Brogdon and pick 29 for Lonzo Ball, pick 11 and the pick we owe them that may never convey anyway. That'd be the first deal I'd make. (the reason I would move 34 up is so the Bulls don't have to worry about any Stepien bullshit which would add value to the deal for them) I'm not sure what direction the Hawks are going but if they're trying to build around either Trae or Dejounte I think guys like Matisse and Rob should be appealing to them. I think pick 7, pick 40, Rob and/or Tisse (who both fit into TPEs that the Hawks have) would be more than enough value to move up six spots to number one in this draft. At pick 1 I'd take Sarr. At pick 11 I'd take the best SF available one of Salaun, Cody Williams, Holland or Buzelis should be there. At 14 we could probably take our favorite of Filipowski, Missi or Ware. We would get a lot bigger and get more athletic. Let's just say we trade Ant to Orlando for Black and the more favorable of their pick and Denver's in next year's draft. Then we trade Jerami to a contender for two future FRPs that may have light protections on them but are guaranteed to convey. Rotation: Scoot, Shae, Cody Williams, Sarr, Deandre, Black, Banton, Ware, Kris, Tou, Bari. That's a very deep rotation filled with very long and athletic players for their positions. We would be able to press really hard on D and push the pace on O. Really spread our minutes out so none of our guys are getting run into the ground. Even starting next season we could wear opponents out. Yeah, next season we'd probably still lose a lot but no one would want to play us and it would build a foundation for this team going forward.
I'm not sure Brogdon is worth one of these picks, and Grant might be worth one but just barely. CP3 contract is expiring and Wiggins has a chance he could gain value to be flipped later. If not at least Wiggins deal expires before Grants. Yes I'd rather have Kuminga than a late picks but these picks could be much better than a late pick. Kuminga value will be greatly diminished once he signs his next contract. Not saying this is the ideal scenario, sure if Cronin can surprise us and get more I'm all for it. But I'd greatly prefer a trade like this where we get two picks, instead of no trade. I'm skeptical we can get more value than this type of deal and holding our for more could eventually leave us with much less.
Take out the #1 pick and then Atlanta considers it, Thybulle and Timelord have negative value so Atlanta needs to be given compensation not give it up. Ideally we only have to give up pick #14 instead of #7. Trading for #1 just doesn't make sense as Atlanta GM is going to need a real asset to do it, none of Thybulle, Timelord, or #7 have that value. But it doesn't make sense from the Blazers side either as Sarr might be the best prospect but your talking about someone who would go around pick #10 in most drafts. Sarr has Johnathan Issac upside with those similar offensive limitations if he realizes his potential. That's not what you want from any lottery pick let alone top3, or #1.
Totally in favor of an Ant trade if we can get two real pieces back like Black and a future #1st. Although it we trade Brogdon/Grant I'm also fine keeping Ant. Just don't want to see this core back when we could deal some of them for picks/youth. Simons to Orlando makes so much sense for both teams.
I can see an argument that we are better off waiting for teams to strike out in free agency then trade Brogdon/Grant for a larger return at that time. But that "wait for a better deal" has been a constant theme of the Cronin era and it greatly risks having to stand pat with no deal. Do we want to risk heading to training camp with this same Brogdon/Ant/Scoot PG trio plus a possible rookie PG in there?
Jarace Walker is just buried in Indiana behind Pascal/Obi. They are surely going to bring Topping back, right? Wonder if they even the appetite to develop Walker. I can see them being interested in Klingan. If available at 7, I would take a swing and flip our pick for Walker. One less year on rookie scale, but likely a better prospect than any other available for us in the draft.
Who would we send to them - Brogdon? Grant doesn't make sense with Siakam. Simons isn't needed with Haliburton. Ayton is now too big of a salary with Siakam and not much of an upgrade over Turner. Brogdon could make sense.
