Politics OFFICIAL AROUND THE TRUMP LEGAL DRAMA: MAY & JUNE 2024

The statistical probability that they got their position based on merit is basically 0. But now we're getting off topic.

 

Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall of that hearing room? Trump would blather his way into the death penalty if it existed for his crimes......

 

no one is going to engage with you no matter how nutty you want to get. But please post more for everyone to enjoy... thank you!

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He'd get to wear a vest that matches his face! I'm imagining the mirrored glasses wearing Secret Service agents hovering as he's bending down for trash along the freeway... motorists from across the country would migrate to NY freeways to honk their horns & say hello.

Of course this would only last so long as the other pending cases will definitely bring hard time

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I'd migrate to NY just so I could dump trash on whatever stretch of highway he was working.......

 

It’s hardly worth arguing. There isn’t a more dubious conviction you could invent that the left wouldn’t cheer for. It’s just the nature of this situation, this is about vengeance and political interference, not legality or justice. 99% of the people cheering don’t have even a basic understanding of what these charges even are, and they don’t care either. That’s where we are at. The irreversible damage done to the justice system seems to be a fair trade to see Trump get convicted of something. The fact this same type of weaponization will undoubtedly be used against their side in the near future escapes them. The precedent has been set and there is no going back. Couple all this with the fact that Trump will probably be the next president and it gives one something to ponder.

 

Cope harder.

 

Not a cope. This was all expected. Just waiting patiently. Enjoy your small wins and short term pleasures.

 

Dubious or not, convicting Trump of a crime is looong overdue.

It was known long before Trump got into tv, and politics. That he was a very shady operator, and that is bring kind.

Trumps conviction reminds me of Al Capone's. It was known Al was involved in many shady activities. From bribery, prostitution, murder and more. Never convicted on any of them. He went to prison on the dubious charge of income tax evasion.

There is one word to discribe Trumps conviction.

Karma!

 

This is all you had to say. You speak for the entire left.
But at least you’re honest about it. Most here will go to their graves defending some novel legal theories they don’t even begin to understand. Then they will cry when the same shit gets used by a corrupt Republican administration in the future.

 

Short term? Yeah I guess as change is the only constant in life, but it sure has been one loss after another for Putin’s GOP since the initial scam election of 2016. Especially since the Supremes overreached with Roe this snowball has been headed downhill picking up speed.

The sooner the right accepts what a toxic loser Trump truly is and that all the conspiracies masquerading as news are in fact just bullshit the sooner the right may start to win again. Hell, adopting some policies the majority of voters like couldn’t hurt their chances either. In the meantime I expect this short term to last for quite a while

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There was nothing dubious about Al Capone's tax conviction. What you could say is that they threw the book at him and he got the maximum penalty for this conviction probably because the judges were aware that this is just one of the many transgressions they could punish him. Same with Trump's conviction, there is nothing dubious about it. The law is clear, it was demonstrated that he clearly did not adhere to it and he was found guilty by a jury of his peers, there are no questions that this happened and that the transgressions happened.

Now, the only question is - is the judge going to show any leniency in administering punishment or not. That's probably where the Al Capone comparison comes. At the end of the day, we all know that just as Al Capone was a criminal, so is DJT. It's just what they can catch him on. Both were/are rich people that used intimidation and their money to escape judgement often, but just like Al Capone, when you commit so many crimes, sooner or later they will catch you on some of them.

 

Misdemeanors were transferred to felonies using extremely novel judicial theories that are completely historically unprecedented in an instance like this.
So no, the law is not “clear” as you are suggesting. They were “clear” misdemeanors initially, and ones that are rarely prosecuted at that. Any legal expert from any side of the aisle will tell you how blatant the fuckery is. Many legal analysts from the left are even throwing in the towel on the defense of this. The fact you have to dance around a comparison of Al Capone and how the justice system was more or less used as vengeance for unproven transgressions says alot.

 

The fact people are still pushing these debunked conspiracies in the year 2024 is just wild.

 

You mean like right now in every poll in every swing state?

 

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a Class E felony according to New York law.

Falsifying business records to the 2nd degree is a misdemeanor.

Charges for falsifying business records can be enhanced based on circumstances. A person is considered guilty of falsifying records in the first degree if he or she did any of the following:

• Committed the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree; and
• When his or her intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime; or
• The purpose is to aid or conceal the commission of a crime.

There is nothing novel about that, this has been a part of the law for a very long time in the state of New York. All the prosecution had to do was to prove:

1. falsifying business document
2. one of the other 2 items that were mentioned above, per the law.

Clearly, the trial persuaded the jury that the crime fit the 1st degree, thus, no longer a misdemeanor.

Just because DJT was found and convicted of it does not make it "unusual or blatant or rarely prosecuted".

What you can say is that it is unusual for people convicted of this crime for the first time to get jail time. That, the stats show is correct. But, I would not be surprised if the Judge comes hard at him, given said Al Capone precedence.

The max jail time for this crime in NY is 4 years. I am not sure how many of these items he was found guilty of are falsifying business record to the first degree, because if there are multiple of those, I would argue that it shows a pattern of behavior and the judge is more likely to issue jail time, but I really did not read the details. Too much of my life has already been taken by listening to or about that bafoon.

 

Are you predicting another red wave? You just keep on cherry picking whatever BS you need to support an alternative reality I’m siting what has actually happened.

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