Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

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  1. AmirIcon

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    I think it needs to happen now. Especially in a devalued draft.
     
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    That's a complete different time. Where Paul could spend as much as he wanted and pay guys a ton of salary without being super penalized. Apples and oranges. The CBA isn't nearly the same.
     
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    Not if Ayton was traded…
     
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    Do you have ideas of your own? The ideas that make perfect sense in your opinion! You know, ideas that are not “horrific” in your experience?
    Looking forward to critiquing what ya got.

    :smack:
     
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    That would definitely be best, IMO. Frankly if we can't trade him for a decent return this off season we're overvaluing him.
     
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  6. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Give me:
    • Simons to ORL for Black, WCJ, & 18
    • Ayton & 14 to Detroit for Duren & 5 (Fournier as salary fill if needed)
    • Grant & 18 to Indy for Walker & Nesmith
    • Take Buzelis at 5 and Knecht at 7
    Of course, that still leaves us with too many players, even if we offloaded Nesmith and Fournier. But still, I'd be really excited to see what those youngsters could do.

    Scoot / Black / Banton
    Sharpe / Brogdon / Thybulle
    Camara / Knecht / Murray / Rupert
    Walker / Buzelis / Walker
    Duren / Carter / RW3
     
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    What did I ever do to you?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'll take your Orlando trade:
    Simons to ORL for Black, WCJ, & 18
    Flip WCJ and 18 to OKC for #12 and the Miami 2o25 pick.

    That leaves us with #7, #12 and #14.

    Trade Grant/14 to Detroit for 5.

    Now we have #5, #7 and #12.

    Take Salaun at 5, Knecht at 7 and Williams at 12 (if he's there)
    Or Williams at 5, Knecht at 7 and Salaun at 12. It all depends on where people think they're going to fall.

    I'd move Brogdon after free agency.
     
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    ….and ANT goes where?
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

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    Ant was in the Orlando deal
     
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    I just disagree the Blazers roster is this close to winning. It had the 3rd fewest wins in the league last year. Golden State had 25 more wins and was the 10th seed.

    If Scoot and Sharpe become allstars then we flip the picks for a starter at that time. That is a key reason to trade Ant or any of our vets for picks - it allows us to build for the long term if we are not close to competing AND it allows us to build for the short term as we can flip those picks for a win now player the moment we are at that level. Picks are the currency of NBA roster building.
     
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    Ok these salaries balance better - you had Brogdon on the Blazers depth chart in your prior post.

    Blazers would probably need to dump every pick they could in these deals to get them done. I think it would be a horrible idea as that roster is not winning playoff series and now it has zero good assets to build long term.

    I'd flip any of Ant/Grant/Brogdon/Thybulle/Ayton for picks that I could and focus on having the Blazers own pick in 2025 be great.
     
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    Why would the Jazz be interested in this. I imagine that for the right price they will move him, but it will be a lot higher, imho, than Brogdon and questionable picks.
     
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    I have my doubts ORL would give up Black, but giving up WCJ and a pick AS WELL? Dream on.
     
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    So net for picks is we add 5 and lose 14.

    Indy really likes Nesmith, not sure they'd even want to swap him for Grant straight up. From our end I'd rather get a young player or picks than Nesmith. We can target a better haul for Grant or if not available just keep him to the deadline.

    If we really like two players I can see using 5 and 7. But you have to think of those as being worth 15+17 in a normal draft. Useful but not great picks. I'd prefer trying to flip either 5 or 7 to a team for a distant unprotected pick such as 2031 with Miami, NY, Minnesota, etc.
     
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    I highly doubt there is any way we use 3 FRP in this draft. If we add a 3rd we'd trade away one or two of them.
     
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    All of these trades involving our vets for players drafted next week seem unlikely. We will want to save luxury tax so we need a team to use some cap space in the trade. However all the teams with cap space will want to first target better options then circle back to our vets as option B.
     
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    Unless they want to dump his contract because he is injury-prone. I personally would prefer not to get him in a trade. #18 is more important to me.
     
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    Utah would very likely do it if it included two of our three best 2029 picks both unprotected and our own 2031 pick unprotected or such. But thats a huge risk from the Blazers end. Then we'd also have to give up more picks for Ingram.

    It wouldn't even be a HCA team we'd have built yet we'd have mortgaged a decade of our future and very likely multiple lottery picks of which multiple ones could be top4. We'd basically be the Nets end of the Tatum and Brown trade.
     
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    No idea how Indy feels about anyone on their roster--just trying to match salary and figured Indy would see value in the Walker for Grant swap, but it's moot if they can't afford it.
     

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