Ukraine hasn't joined NATO yet has it...Ukraine will surrender under the terms of agreeing to never join NATO. And when history proves this to be correct once again, you'll still not 2nd guess any of the propaganda you swallowed.
Did I say Ukraine had joined NATO? Nope. I said they will do so at the earliest opportunity. I honestly don't know why you made that post. You refuted nothing I said (because it's irrefutable) and you added nothing. How long are you going to pout after Biden wins and is free to supply Ukraine with all the weapons they need and Russia completely pulls out?
Me: "He just wants to ensure that Ukraine doesn't join NATO." You: "Well he's done a shit job of it." Me: "Ukraine hasn't joined NATO yet has it...Ukraine will surrender under the terms of agreeing to never join NATO" You: "I honestly don't know why you made that post. You refuted nothing I said..." I cant expect you to have any understanding of the situation. You only listen to lies. And you don't seem to have a very good capacity for reflection, to understand the pattern of lies you've been told. You're quite typical of the masses.
Also, what makes you think Trump won't back the funding of the war? Mike Johnson agreed to it, Trump said he stood by Johnson. Trump funded Ukraine's military build up when he was in office. https://www.cfr.org/blog/election-2024-donald-trump-declines-fight-aid-ukraine
Again, he's doing a shit job of it. Ukraine didn't want to join NATO until Russia invaded them. That also forced further expansion of NATO by having 2 more countries join NATO. So Once again. Putin is doing a shit job.
It seems people who want to see this war escalate will get their wish sooner or later... And why would the US assist in such an attack unless they were trying to provoke an escalatory attack from Russia?
Well. Russia said it so it must be true. And they were not massing troops to invade Crimea in 2014. And they definitely weren't massing troops to invade the rest of the country and attack Kyiv in February of 2022... Nothing to see there... Russia is trustworthy!
And they didn't intervene in our presidential election because Putin said so and he can be trusted more than US intelligence.
The fact that this incident took place is not being disputed. It's reported on CNN. (which is probably your favorite station).
And Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent because she critisized the bombing of Syria, and Hillary Clinton did not pay to have the Steele Dossier fabricated, and the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian Hoax, and the moon is a Russian hoax...
I don't think anybody made any claims about if any incident happened. Checking... Nope. Let me be clear. I don't give a shit what claims Russia is making. The fact that you're spreading what Cuomo says as a source against Letitia James and Russia as a source for anything shows have either very questionable motives or are incredibly gullible.
Then what did this mean, "Well. Russia said it so it must be true" if you were not casting doubt on the veracity of the claim? Once you found out it did in fact happen you try and pretend like you were never questioning it, and deflect to some irrelevant topic.
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I haven't even followed up to see what it was about. I don't even consider anything Russia says or claims as worth following up on or verifying. I just assume it's a flat out lie or propaganda and move on with my day. Maybe I'll make fun of the person who uses it as a source... But that's about it. That's pretty much anything you say in the OT section. We can be pretty sure it's bullshit propaganda from some despot or other unless we've already heard it from a more reliable source. Be better.
I suppose I shouldn't expect people to be able to track all the lies they've swallowed when they can't even remember what they said 5 minutes ago. What else can launching cluster munitions into a civilian area be considered except for a deliberate provocation? I"ve thought from the start that the west wanted all-out war with Russia, based on the way they were spinning the conflict in the media. I think plan A was to try and win by proxy, and plan B to go into all out hot war if Plan A failed (which it has).
Well, this demonstrates how that is not a good strategy, because I'm clearly bringing you factual information that you missed from whatever bubble you're in. You lefties like to play the "attack the messenger" game. There is probably not much any of us can do to stop this now, but if everyone in the US realized what was going on and demanded our leaders to reverse course, it just might be effective. Or we could possibly replace our leaders with sane ones before all hell breaks loose.
I don't care if any information from Russia is factual. It's not worth the time. The only reason I'm responding to you is because you're bringing their bullshit into an area I pay attention to. I don't care if any of it is somewhat true. Russia isn't a victim. Anything that is happening to the people of Russian have been brought on to them by neighbors Russia's leaders have tortured. Russia needs to be better and get rid of their despot leaders and hit the reset button. Once they do that I'll go back to caring about them. It may sound harsh, but that's the only option. We can't allow their propaganda to soften our approach. That's what they want. It just tells me that Russia is starting to get desperate. They know they don't have the numbers to hold Ukraine by force. And once Biden wins Ukraine will get even better support from the US. Nobody intelligent in the US cares anything about what any media out of Russia is saying.
Ukraine uses the "human shield" strategy, putting weaponry in civilian infrastructure. https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-re...vilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new
