Is the modern NBA much faster? League average pace in 85-86 was 102.1 possessions per game; last year it was 98.5.
I don't know who Peek is, but a fire-able offense in this draft? Come on. Does this person guarantee which players will be good? Are there any in this draft? The roster as it stands? What does that mean? The roster as it stands won 21 games last season.
Ok maybe faster wasnt the right adjective. But it's more suited for players who aren't slow and plodding because of the varied offensive attacks and fewer postups. Offensive efficiency has skyrocketed and I think will leave players like Edey by the wayside. Similarly, his limited versatility on defense will make him a prime target for perimeter oriented offenses who have speed/agility at every position.
The Edey and Clingan for that matter smoke doesn't make much sense to me unless we have a trade sending Ayton out. We already have a big paint protecting C that as big as he is has way better foot speed than either of these two. I think if we go big with pick 14 it should be with Ware who is even more mobile than Deandre and can shoot the three. If we moved up for a big it should be for Sarr who moves his feet better than maybe any other 7 footer in the league... definitely right there with Wemby and Chet but I honestly think he's a bit more fluid and probably a bit quicker than even those two. I hope we do move up from 14, while staying at 7. I hope we end up with both Cody Williams and Salaun. I think they are the perfect kind of forwards who project to be great wing complements to a Scoot/Shaedon back court.
She's the nba draft guru at Yahoo the past few years. Was one of the first people who was on the Shaedon bandwagon after reporting on him at the EYBL. She's got some draft bonafides that make me trust her opiniom more than some others
Yeah, it's more spread out and many rosters will not have to sacrifice having a near 7 footer out there to have five guys who can shoot the three. If a team like Miami takes Edey it will make sense because they can dictate when they use him as a mismatch against opponents. We just don't have a roster that affords us the luxury of drafting a bench specialist whose ceiling seems to be where his game is at right now. We have to swing for the fences and try to get someone that will develop into a high level starter with versatility.
We all know that defense is going to be a question, and few are talking about him being some kind of team centerpiece. But his size will also give him the ability to take advantage of those perimeter-oriented teams on the offensive end, both with his pick-setting and his post presence. Situationally, he can absolutely bring value, especially to a team that was near the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency.
I am not taking situationally effective dudes who need optimal game plans to even see the floor with either lottery pick.
There still are a lot of centers in the NBA you could say the same about -- Joker, Embiid, Gobert, Towns, Nurk, Kessler, Hartenstein, Vucevic, Lopez, Stewart, Sengun, Poetl, Valanciunis, Adams, Porzingis. Every one of those players is at an extreme disadvantage if they get stuck switching on a high screen and roll. And yet, they still get a lot of minutes for one reason or another. Add to that, there are a whole lot of other bigs in the NBA today that start or are big rotation players who aren't perimeter threats themselves. It's not like every team in the NBA plays 5-out.
Think people are scared because there is no precedent for a player like Edey having success in the modern NBA. Even Clingan has Gobert as a distant comparison. But what if Edey IS the precedent?
That lady went on a rant that the Blazers traded Jrue Holliday. I know nothing about Zach Edey, but her take on Portland quickly flipping Jrue for a couple of picks and 2 role players makes me question anything she says. Maybe she understands draft prospects better than the NBA situation - but I would argue that you actually need to understand these things as well to understand draft fit...
I think that's massively overstating it, but I still respect your opinion, even though I disagree with it.
I mean, Givony thinks Edey is like a top 7 player in this draft, and he was also sold on Shaedon. It's not like Edey doesn't have veteran draft analysts advocating for him.
Not saying they haven't. Peek's views just align with mine. That said, I am dead against the idea of clingan too, but who knows.
Maybe he is the "draft for crazy upside" with upside being "change how the game is played" as Steph was when GSW drafted him. In theory, this dude could be the guy you throw into the paint to have Wemby figure out how to stop him. He will just toss him out of the way and dunk? Defensive side be damned? (Again, I know nothing about this dude other than reading about him, never seen him play, have no effin idea).
If there isn’t a huge upside potential pick at 14 I’m good with Edey at 14. If this years playoffs showed anything it’s the game slows down and having a good big off the bench would be really nice. Also I think his offense is under appreciated. At this point I feel like we have potential of having at least 3 maybe even 4 spots that have starter potential 1. Ayton definitely a starter 2. Sharpe- star potential but still an unknown if that will happen 3. Scoot- same as Sharpe I’m a fan and see the potential . Game started to slow down last year he’ll be a much improved player this year 4. Camara- solid and should continue to improve if not hopefully this years pick fills this role 5. Currently Grant but really don’t think he’s the solution at the PF position. Again I would draft or trade to fill this position. first 3 have all star potential.
I think a lot of the narrative that has been around Edey is that he has to be a post up player on offense. I don't think that's true watching some film. Purdue posted him up a ton because that's what was best for their team. I don't think he couldn't play pnr in the NBA. Edey will crush everyone on screens which gives so much space to the ball handler. He's not that much slower than Nurkic, could you imagine what Dame could do with Edey on a roll? Edey has great hands and finishes everything near the basket, he doesn't even need to make it to the rim.