Politics The OFFICIAL Biden vs Trump Debate #1 Thread

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  1. MickZagger

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    I go by policy more than how sharp two geezers sound in a pissing contest.

    I’m still baffled these guys are the candidates. Sheesh.
     
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    Yeah, 10s of billions for Ukraine, then a pittance for the border for things they don't need. The problem is the POLICIES Biden implemented.

    It would be like if I went up to someone and said, "If you give me $50,000 I'll stop dumping garbage on your lawn". Then you say no, and I run around telling everyone you want people to dump garbage on your lawn because you refused a deal that would have prevented it.
     
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    I think Biden could have been much stronger on abortion and democracy. They are slam dunks.
    No real standout moments. I don't know if it moved the needle.

    Debates are weird. Clinton slayed Trump three times. Kerry out debated Bush.

    Biden is not a good communicator, which is why a lot of people are unaware that good things happening were his policies.
     
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    So bad.
     
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    I don’t know what y’all are worried about, Biden looks great.
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    Ah yes, love this line.

    “You aren’t struggling. Things are good, economy is great, you just are too stupid to realize it.”
     
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    Makes me wonder if Biden will step aside. This could be why we’re seeing debates so early, they wanted to see how things go before it’s too late to run someone else if things look bad, which they absolutely do.
    They’d be smart to run someone else, as soon as possible.
     
  8. Chris Craig

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    I wouldn't be upset by that.
     
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    Oh Beagle, don't you know Democrats are always standing on the ledge?
    Happy Pride.
     
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    Just fucking kill me
     
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    Happy Pride!
     
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    Tough to watch...Joe needs to step aside and let the party select another candidate id its not to late.
     
  13. MickZagger

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    As a Republican would you really want that?
     
  14. Chris Craig

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    For him to step aside? No, Republicans wouldn't want that. Well Republicans that support Trump wouldn't want it. Republicans who want some one else to vote for might.
     
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    Well, there's the thing. The left-wingers on the CNN panel all were saying they were getting calls by Dems in a panic.

    Contrast that to the GOP, which stands firmly behind someone who incited an insurrection and stands for almost nothing by which the American right identified itself in 2015.

    The DNC runs scared too easily. It never plays to its strength. It's always playing defense. IMO, that's why it so often loses despite better policies and a proven track record of doing things that help more Americans.

    Biden won this debate on policy and lost it on appearance. It's not ... check that, IT SHOULDN'T BE viewed as a clear defeat because Trump is unlikeable and untrustworthy and just reinforced that tonight and 1980 Christie Brinkley isn't a candidate in this race. The Dem leadership needed to take a page out of the Mitch McConnell/Kevin McCarthy playbook and just pretend the bad stuff didn't happen and present a strong, resolute front.

    Instead, they're calling Peter King and Van Jones and saying the end of the world is nigh and we need to change horses in midstream.

    This is a case where, as much as it might fly in the face of reason, you need to lead and you need to make your constituents feel this was at worst a minor defeat that wasn't the end of the world. Instead, their reaction is going to have all Dem and anti-Trump independent voters acting like they're in a dark theater and someone yelled fire.

    I know you are pro-Trump or at least anti-Biden, beast. Obviously, I am very anti-Trump, but I'm trying to be as dispassionate as one can be about things.
     
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    The gaslighting by Trump was ridiculous. Biden wasn’t great but wasn’t as terrible as people are gonna make it out to be.

    I was dying laughing when the two geezers were arguing about golf tho
     
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    Van Jones also said there is a candidate who probably shouldn't be president (Biden) and a candidate who CANNOT be president (Trump).
     
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    I've heard that quote from a couple of people as early as the opening minutes of the debate.
     
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    I don't know why Biden even agreed to this debate. His base had to witness something they had been sheltered from, in the information bubbles that have attempted to hide/gaslight them from the fact that Biden as not mentally competent anymore.

    I've been trying to tell lefties this for years and they act like it's some kind of right wing conspiracy.

    I'm pretty sure the DNC is trying to figure out a way to replace Biden. He had this deer in headlights look all night.
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