Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

Casuals don't understand the game. Only recognize names because that's all they know.

 

this seems to be the resting posture of most gms.

'we're being active but we're not going to make moves just to make moves, only if we're blown away...'

 

It takes a village...

 

Thanks! Obviously didn't pay close enough attention. I'm just OK with it, it's not terrible. We would want to get something for DLo and Lyles... not much but some second rounders.

 

2nd rounder for Russell but 1st rounder(s) for Ant?

 

I don't give a fuck where mocks had a dude that only showed he could be productive for one year of actually competitive college ball. There is a reason he was taken late in the first round. I also don't care how much we traded to bring Jerami here.

The fact is I think Knecht is a bench piece but not a bad one... that's where I think he ends up. Jerami is a guy who can be the third or fourth best starter on a championship team. I think that his ability to score really efficiently on all three levels when not the focal point of an offense and defend really well would probably be the difference between the Lakers struggling in the first round and them having a solid chance at winning the whole fucking thing. So yeah, I'm not cool with giving the Lakers or any other team that kind of opportunity without them having to pay fair market value for it.

I can't follow the logic of, because Joe fleeced the Pistons when we got Jerami we should let the Lakers fleece us now. Once again SMH.

 

I stand corrected a team that is in win now mode should have to pay at least a first rounder to get either guy. I do think that when looking at their efficiency and advanced stats for last season it is important to remember who they were playing with and what roles they were playing. Ant still did pretty good for being out of his depth as a first option on offense. I do think DLo is probably the better defender but that's not clearing a very high bar and I don't think he's clearing it by much.

Very similar players but again they both should have more value than the second rounders I suggested flipping DLo for.

 

sure, there's some context that favors Ant, but since DLo has an advantage in most of the categories, I'm kind of skeptical the context offsets those advantages significantly

besides that, I think both players would be looked at as bench support. I can think of only two teams (other than Portland) that might have looked at Ant as a starter and those two teams signed KCP and Klay. Russell is cheaper, more efficient, and doesn't dominate the ball as much. I guess Ant can create his own offense more often, but this last season Ant was in the 40th percentile in isolation while Russell was in the 71st percentile. In PnR (ball handler), Ant was in the 68th percentile; Russell in the 67th percentile

again, you can apply context but I don't really think that context dramatically alters the gauges

 

Thank goodness we didn't let zero years of "competitive ball" stop us from drafting Dame.

 

I just watched Knecht's March Madness highlights. That kid can ball. But Blazer fans have a huge comp advantage.

can Dalton outplay: Avdija, Brogdon, Carrington, a 2029 FRP, and 2 second round picks? That's a lot for a Tennessee rookie to overtake.

 

What a straw-man argument here...

Knecht played 5 years of basketball in college. His first 3.5 years were very pedestrian by just about any standard. He had a very good season at Tennessee last year.

Dame pretty much dominated his last 3 seasons. Dame's statistical output for these 3 seasons was significantly better than what Knecht did last season.

All while Dame was about 1.5 years younger than Knecht in their last college season.

 

Nice one liner but are you an advocate of giving up Jerami for Knecht and salary filler?

 

Knecht/pick/filler.

Or two unprotected picks and filler.

 

That is what I think would be fair. Actually if it was say 2029 unprotected, I'd be cool with 2031 being top 10 protected for a few years before becoming a second rounder or something. The second FRP would just need to be likely to convey even if it was guaranteed not to be a really high pick. If it's Knecht I would want the pick to be guaranteed because he's already a low first rounder.

 

When you operate from a position of strength, you have that luxury. (Blazers)

When you operate from a position of weakness, there's a sense of urgency, you may need to overpay

 

17 in that draft is equivalent to what 27 in a typical draft? Need more

 

Knecht is a less athletic Pat Connaughton, he's not the missing piece to a starting lineup.

 

They are not similar aside from both being white. Pat averaged like 10 ppg in college and was a 2nd round pick. Knecht was one of the leading scorers while being the focal point of team defenses, his offensive skill far exceeds Pat's.