Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

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How many trades will the Blazer make on or before Draft night(s)?

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  1. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    Ok, you don't have to give a fuck. You're just not making a good case. A lot of players come out after one year, not being as productive as Dalton was.

    And the logic is that the Blazers trade for Jerami showed what his value was to the rest of the league at that point in time. So why are we expecting 2 1st round picks now?
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

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    It's not just about his "value" in a vacuum, but also how much the current team wants him to go, and how important he would be to the acquiring team. A couple years ago, Detroit wanted to dump salary, so Portland's TPE was as important to them as the pick we gave. Now, Portland is already under the tax, so they don't have any huge incentive to dump Grant, whereas the Lakers need someone like him if they want to compete. As others have said, teams pay a premium for desperation. It is absolutely reasonable for the Blazers to expect 2 FRP's (or 1 pick and Knecht) from the Lakers for Grant given each team's current situation.
     
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    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    I think LA is under a lot of pressure to get someone. I'd rather have a prospect now though, then picks 5 years from now, especially one that could fill in at a position of need.
     
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    You don't really think we fleeced Detroit, do you? We didn't give up a lot of value, for sure, but he's been next to useless at Portland.

    I don't know what LA (or any other team) would give up to get him, but he's older and he is on a much bigger contract and he hasn't proven anything on the court for several years now (since before Detroit, maybe?) so I have a hard time believing we'll get much of anything for him... which I suspect is a big part of why he's still a Blazer.
     
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    The Blazers haven't accomplished much during his time here, but I'd say his production has been pretty solid. Last season in 54 games he averaged 21 ppg on 45.1% shooting, with 40.2% from 3. He sucks at rebounding, but that was always a known factor.
     
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    I'd think two unprotected picks + filler for Grant is asking too much. Maybe the 2029 first unprotected + 2031 lottery protected (or 2030 swap top-5 protected...something along those lines, and that still may force the Lakers to balk)

    I also think there are some obstacles in the filler (and maybe some opportunity). Russell + Hachimura puts the Blazers over the tax line and I'd estimate the Lakers value Rui a lot more and that would make them even less willing to part with draft assets. Russell + Vanderbilt is really close to revenue neutral for both teams; but Vanderbilt has a long-term contract. I suppose he's a decent tradable contract and that's a plus

    what I'd really like to see is

    Grant + Timelord
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    Russell + Vandy + Vincent + 2029 unprotected first + future pick/swap

    that would give the Lakers, and Lebron if he was willing, the room to use their full MLE

    then, I think Portland could flip Russell to a 3rd team for another pick. I think league-wide Russell may have close to the same value as Simons, so a lottery protected first or a late first may be a possibulity
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If D-Lo were included and could be flipped for another first, it could conceivably allow the Blazers to not require picks from the Lakers and still come out with a win. For example...

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    Detroit traded Jerami for that return because he was about to be on an expiring contract that they knew would see him walk. That was the position of strength that the Blazers had over the Pistons at the time. We took on every bit of Jerami's money leaving them a huge TPE and they got a FRP that I think they knew they could turn into Duren, it made sense for them but we got him at a discount.

    Now we have a team in the Lakers that are desperate to get better. We also have Jerami locked into a deal so there is no way that he leaves for nothing. We have no pressure on us to make a deal with the Lakers under enormous pressure. So we should be able to sell him at a premium.

    The idea that a dude is useless when he was one of the only scoring threats on this team and still hit 40% from three on high volume and has always played solid defense on anyone 2-3 is disingenuous. He's only been on really poorly built rosters since he's been here, so yeah when our team has tanked both season's he's been here, every player that has been on our rosters has been "useless" but a guy that shoots the three like he does and has the ability to score at all three levels and play high level defense across multiple positions is not useless to a team like the Lakers who are in desperate need for complementary pieces to play with LeBron and AD.
     
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    I'd still want to squeeze that 2029 first out of the Lakers and I'd let them keep Knecht. I'd think they would be willing to pay it if they could keep Hachimura and Knecht. I also think they'd have a lot of interest in Timelord even with his injuries
     
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    I'd probably do that, but I'd be a little annoyed.
     
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    Hell, give them simons AND Grant. Take back Russell, rui, Vincent, Vanderbilt. Swap those guys wherever wants them. 29 and 31 unprotected. Knecht. Every swap we could get
     
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    Don't necessarily think that the Lakers would want Simons, but if they did, yeah, that would probably be a win.

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    That has crossed my mind too. That LAL offense would be scary.
     
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    I really like this trade.
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    If we could combine it with the Knicks/Nets trade - something like this would be amazing. Nets just give up 1 pick to upgrade from Bog to DLo:
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    would the 2nd deal have to be folded into the Bridges trade? Seems like it could be a Bog for DLo trade straight across. I'm not sure why the Nets would do that though. Bog would be better for the tank than DLo

    I would be surprised if there wasn't another playoff team that would like DLo added for his floor-spacing and play-making and would pay a future late-ish 1st for it
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I dunno who this guy is but the account has almost 13k followers



    It seems he called Dame to Milwaukee first before anyone else.
     
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    I forgot about the fact that Grant is a Klutch client and shares the same agent as Lebron....intriguing
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Haha did you miss my post yesterday?

     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Who would want DLO? The Magic?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Would people be satisfied with this? I'd love to get Knecht as well.

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