Trade Avdija to Blazers

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by RR7, Jun 26, 2024.

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Good trade?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that's entirely true. The Blazers would be limited in any extension they gave him, yes; in that case, the CBA restrictions on raises applies

    however, if he becomes UFA in July 2028, then the Blazers, owning his bird rights, could pay him 30% of the salary cap and also give 8% step raises

    by the way, with the new media deals kicking in next July, and with the smoothing provision in the new CBA limiting cap increases to 10%, the salary cap when Avdija becomes UFA could be 187M....LOL...he could be eligible for a 5-year/325M contract and Portland could pay it if they wanted. 65M/year
     
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  2. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    That's not correct. Portland would have the ability to pay him more than any other team.

    They are just restricted in extending his contract before he hits FA. Once he becomes an UFA, Portland could potentially max him out (assuming he is worth it).
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If he’s not on the team in 5 years when the pick conveys, we did not win.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So it sounds like the risk is that you have to let him get to UFA before you can pay him.
     
  5. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    While I don't enjoy losing on the first round, I still like that better than being one of the worst teams in the league.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    You oversimplified, by a long shot, Nancy.

    Or Karen?
     
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  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So I bring up an interesting wrinkle that was discussed on a podcast and this is your response?
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    You way oversimplified.

    Way, brah. Look at your statement and the consider all the ways you could be way wrong. You could be right, but way too simply.

    But the most simplistic viewpoint is us getting a bargain player for four seasons. And you're worried about season 5. You know how often things change year-to-year? And you're worried about five years into the future?

    What woman broke you after four years?
     
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  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This response is so overly dramatic.
     
  10. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Nobody brings irony better than NB.

    You acted like my original post was directed at you. I forgot you were head of the drama club in HS. For that, I genuinely apologize. I'm recognizing your game (skill). Let's move on.
     
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  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I have been dealing with a screaming 4 month old for the past hour so frankly I don’t give a shit.
     
  12. Whyachi

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    There are too many "say whaaa?" moments within Portland's media. Bad takes after rough nights is normal procedure in modern NBA. The Blazers local media has become so intertwined with ownership, they tell us how difficult it is to manage an NBA team...... it's not our problem.

    Most of us are simply fans that root for the players on this NBA team. Not the characteristics of a profitable business model. A team that can cash out while only providing a fraction of success in this professional sport... that stuff is beyond what we can root for. It's a big ask. The team makes the owner lots of money, so cheer up Portland ?
     
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    Karenbishop, your responses and posts clearly say otherwise. We all see it. I wasn't even talking to you in my post intended as a general post that you made about you.

    On the other side of things, congrats on the new child. I'd likely have more sympathy to direct your way but both of my daughters were amazing sleepers (and when they weren't, which was rare, I admittedly and regretfully missed it, so I cannot relate). That being said, good luck and get off S2 this late, brah!
     
  14. HoopsFanAZ

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    Given what I’ve read and seen since the trade for Avdija, Good Or Bad trade doesn’t cover it. Excellent is more in line.
    Washington prioritized and did what they wanted, so I’m glad they traded with Portland. Trading an expiring contract of a veteran 6th man who needed trading and a draftee and the 2nd best of three picks 5 years from now that may work out well for the Wizards? Good for them if they do. Glad they were up for it.

    Avdija doesn’t have the desired plus-wingspan, but a 6’9 forward who guards 1-4 with some playmaking and 3-level skills that have improved? That’s a serious win. His descending 4-year deal is just so nice. This Fall will prove out. For now, I’ll go with excellent.
     
  15. wizenheimer

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    yeah, that's the risk

    I suppose that means there can always be a downside to signing young guys to budget contracts
     
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  16. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    In 4 years I suspect Rupert will ready to dominate the league, Scoot and Shaedon already will be dominating the league, Toumani will be 2 time defending DPOY, Clingan will be an all star and the Blazers will need some cap space to re-sign Damian Lillard on his swan song as they march their way to the title.

    Deni will gladly come back if he wants to win a title!



    (did I do that right?)
     
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  17. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    I disagree. We are losing for a purpose to try to accumulate as much talent as possible.

    A treadmill team continuing to lose in the 1st round with zero chance of winning a title without many assets to trade is the worst position to be in for a small market team.
     
  18. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    making it to the playoffs is neat and all, but if you never *really* progress past just making the playoffs, it's not that much fun.
     
  19. Mediocre Man

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    Love this
     
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    Or a reason to consider having contracts progressively increase instead of decreasing.

    Never really thought of this dynamic before. It's a legit item to consider. Still makes signing guys to reasonable contracts a great value overall though so I don't think it should ever prevent a team from locking up a player on a team friendly deal.
     

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