OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    And I gave up basketball because Shaq robbed me of my competitive spirit and willingness to work to improve. How many old guys like me just said I'm done. I don't want to play against a guy 3 times my size and 1/4 my age?

    I don't think you are making a good case for drawing the line in any particular place.

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    Ok, I'm sorry everyone, I've realized the error of my ways. I hope boys and men continue to invade female sports to the point where no females can play. They need to get back to their rightful position, baking bread, knitting, playing with dolls.

    Fuck female sports.
     
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    This point has already been brought up multiple times. A man or woman with male testosterone levels that weighs the same weight as a woman with female testosterone levels is going to be stronger and will have multiple physical advantages.
    This part of the discussion really should not be up for debate but again with the same poster here we are?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That is more consistent with your other views, certainly.

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    You actually made my point but then pirates have a peg leg and probably wouldn't play basketball very well.
     
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    No, fuck you
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There aren't just two levels of testosterone. There's a large range of values. Where exactly do you want to draw the line?
    And, of course, testosterone isn't the only thing you need to worry about. Biology is very complex, and lots of things can give an individual an 'unfair' advantage.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You try playing on one leg, in rough seas, with a cutlass banging against your leg and parrot shit running down your arm... it ain't easy, mate.

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    But that's because you weren't one of the best basketball players in the world. If you were you wouldn't feel that way.

    Without protections for women's sports there would be no best women basketball players in the world. No women would make the cut.
     
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    I personally don't care, just as I don't care there are no 80+ year olds in the NBA.
    Heck, I'm not sure if I care if anyone plays sports, maybe all that time and energy and money should be spent on something with more societal value.
    But, if the rulemakers want to draw a line and say 'these people can play women's sports, and these people can't', then the rulemakers have to be very specific. And consistent. So far, they haven't been.

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    Finding out she’s an Italian cop brings out the soccer fan in me. She takes dives like Rudy Fernandez out there.
     
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    Sadly, the Dunning-Kruger effect prevents this. It's not your fault. It's rather tragic, really.
     
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    You've got to feel for Imane Khelif: if she actually did identify as a man, she'd be imprisoned as a trans person. And mocked by the same people who are outraged now at her identifying as what literally everyone in her world has always told her she is.

    She's like gay penguins: a fact of nature that doesn't fit with a moronically simplistic worldview and thus cannot be acknowledged as real.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    Ill chime in here if only to clarify testosterone.
    Im currently self administering a testosterone shot weekly. What i learned from the doctors is testosterone ranges from 0-1100 approx.

    They consider anything below 300 dangerously low. I was at 296 when first tested. After about 6 weeks of treatment, i was up to 680. Optimal is 700-900.
    I go im for. Other blood teat next week. 4 months into my 18 month program.
    So far i have not felt any stronger. I havent gained muscle mass and i actually had to have a second prescription for a pill that counteracts water retention which comes from increased estrogen.
    Anyone getting T shots will also increase thier estrogen unless countered. This, like i said, results in increased water retention (for me it was in the feet) and often causes swelling in the breasts.

    So i guess my point is, from what i have learned, T shots alone, will not create large advantages without addition of other chemicals to enhance certain side effects and suppress others.


    When it comes to the physical makeup of men and women, even if they are the same height and weight, Im pretty sire there is a gap in the strength or pressure per square inch the body can provide.
    There are punching bags that measure this.
    I don't know for sure but im willing to bet if you paired 100men with 100 women, even at the same height and weight, the man will punch with more power per square inch than the women 90%+ of the time.

    If equality is truly wanted, we should pair up like punching power along with height and weight.
     
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    Once again, height and weight are not good indicators of similar athletic ability or strength between men and women.
     
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    Once again? Not sure you read my post, unless this is your way of agreeing with me?


     
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    Just reiterating because it seems to keep coming up.
     
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    Muscle mass per square inch?
    Testosterone and estrogen level mins and maxes?
     
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    Women naturally carry more fat around their chest and hips. They would typically be unhealthy if they had as low body fat percentage as a fit man.

    This body fat, while healthy and necessary for a woman to carry children, adds to their body weight without helping them athletically.

    This is only one of the many athletic disadvantages women have when compared to men.
     
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