I don't care about being right. I care about doing right. Ukraine is doing the right thing. Russia is doing the wrong thing.
Right at this point is stopping the bloodshed. Russia's not innocent, but the US and NATO have only fostered the conflict. We're using the Ukranians as cannon fodder. We've only said we don't want to negotiate, the only acceptable end result is defeat of Russia and Putin. That goal is literally impossible. It's insane.
No. Right, right now, is stopping Russia from attacking Ukraine. Or ar least helping Ukraine defend themselves. Wrong would be refusing to help Ukraine defend themselves. Wrong is advocating that Ukraine not defend themselves.
This Ukrainian push into Russia makes me very nervous. Reminds me of Napoleon's and Hitler's armies invading Russia and then failing.
The difference is Hitler and Napoleon were trying to take Russia. That is obviously not Ukraine's goal.
Nato eventually gets into this war to deal with Putin, Me too, as I think it's NATO's way of inch by inch getting after Putin. They know Putin is in this for the long haul. The only hope is that he comes to the table an agrees to a settlement and end of the war or he's got to be dealt with.
People’s brains get so caught up in this technological world of drones and cheerleading from afar over social media to the point where they think logistics don’t matter, or they simply don’t understand them. Logistics matter. Russia is fucking huge and there are millions of people there. Nobody is simply marching in to take shit over, just like they couldn’t here, or China for example. You are talking military accomplishments that would take decades or longer even for another superpower. Ukraine is practically third-world and nowhere near a worthy adversary for a superpower. This whole idea would be laughable if it wasn’t so destructive and psychotic.
The way this war has been fought, one thing is very clear. Once one side or the other takes control of land, and sets up a defense. It becomes very costly for the other side to take that land back. The Ukraine troops invading russia are very well trained, armed, supplied, and supported. This is not a short term raid. This appears to be take land and hold it operation. Why? Only a few people in Ukraine know the plan, and they are silent. My wild guess. Ukraine is setting up for future peace negotiations. Give us back our land, and we will return yours.
Give us back our entire eastern region and all of Crimea and we’ll give you back your 4 acres. Deal of the century. Ukraine has nothing to bring to the table. Putin making a peace deal is charity at this point.
Hmmm, you must not be aware of how large this invasion is. Reliable reports place Ukraine troops 20+ miles inside of russia. With multiple attack groups on a front about 40+ miles wide. And still advancing.
and like China...90% of it is tundra, desert or in Russia's case, frozen wasteland.....one might say Moscow is a lot closer than Siberia but unlike China.they have oil! Ukraine and NATO's clearly stated goal is for Russian troops to leave Ukraine and then for Moscow to pay for the damage they inflicted on Ukrainian infrastructure. Then we'll talk peace...Ukraine has never demanded Russian land but they dammed sure aren't giving up their farmlands and coastal land for Putin's whim of expansion. You wouldn't either if it were your homeland
You mean pay BlackRock, who already has been promised the contracts to rebuild? It’s amazing you guys still don’t see the scam. None of this money ever leaves the DC Beltway lol.
That is not accurate. BlackRock does not rebuild. They are an investment group. BlackRock and JPMorgan are backing a $15 billion investor fund to rebuild Ukraine It would cost almost half-a-trillion dollars to reconstruct Ukraine A coalition of investors, with support from BlackRock and JPMorgan, are aiming to put together $15 billion in aid to rebuild Ukraine. In a new group known as the Ukraine Development Fund, they are supporting investments from state bodies and capital markets; the fund will bring together a consortium of investors to finance at least $15 billion of reconstruction work in the country after two years of Russian invasion. The Financial Markets Advisory Group of BlackRock has five members working on the fund, along with JPMorgan Chase staff members. Both institutions are providing their services for free. Last month, the World Bank and other organizations estimated the total cost of rebuilding Ukraine after Russia’s invasion at almost $500 billion. In an interview with Bloomberg, Philipp Hildebrand, vice chairman of BlackRock Inc., said the Ukraine Development Fund is poised to secure at least $500 million from countries, development banks, and other grant providers. https://qz.com/blackrock-jpmorgan-p...new group known,two years of Russian invasion.
Doesn't matter who rebuilds it. As long as it gets rebuilt. I would prefer Ukraine decide who rebuilds it, and would support any legislation that would make that happen. But if BlackRock does it that's fine too. I'm certainly not going to let the problems with our political system get in the way of me supporting helping Ukraine.
It'll cost half a billion dollars and we've conveniently frozen about $300 billion Russian... So the rest of the world can front $200 billion and once Ukraine is rebuilt it will be able to pay that back with interest in probably a few decades. I like it.
