OFFICIAL AROUND THE NBA: SEPTEMBER 2024

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    You DO understand WHO you are replying to right?
     
    THE HCP, Sep 29, 2024
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    Looks like Scoot made the list!

     
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    so we have the worst #3 option in the league?
     
    SheedSoNasty, Sep 29, 2024
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    I didn’t even bother to say this but yeah.
     
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    Disagree. If you’re not Top 40 in PER, you’re not a star.
     
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    Thanks for taking care of this. I just didn't have it in me. Sat through my sons soccer game yesterday. 111 degrees when it ended and we set an all time high for the day, 117. You did better than I ever would have anyways. Cheers!
     
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    Yes, I try to be respectful and reply but sometimes it is just too much. Wiz did a great job replying to him.
     
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    That's how I read that.
     
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    But he’s top 30!
     
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    I wonder where he falls when he’s the second option on the court?
     
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    I'd say we also have the worst #1 and #2 options in the league.

    Our first option is Grant, second is Ayton.
     
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    Ant is our first scoring option, then perhaps JG and DA sharing second, then third is Shae, Deni and Scoot, then you have everyone else. We’re honestly getting a little loaded with young talent finally.
     
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    The worst #3 that shouldn't be on the list. He would be #5 if starting. He's a distributor of the ball Ant, Shae, Ayton, Grant & Dani all offensive options before Scoot. At this point anyway.
     
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    Ant and Ayton aren't young, not by NBA standards. I'm hopeful for Avdija but for a 9th pick, he was pretty disappointing over his first 3 seasons. He really improved his marks last season over his norms. Now we need to see him sustain that improvement, then build on it

    Sharpe and Scoot have upside no doubt, but they both have some substantial questions about their games, especially Scoot. Probably the same case with Clingan

    this roster isn't really "loaded with young talent" IMO, not if actual established talent is the gauge. I think most observers would say that Portland is one of the least talented teams in the league. Vegas sure doesn't like the Blazer talent. Maybe that calculation will be different by mid-season, but for now...
     
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    A 25/26 year old vet tandem capable of 20-25 ppg and one of them a double double machine, is infinitely more valuable than more raw 19/20 yr olds. I don’t think a 5 year age difference is meaningful
     
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    For comparison:

    PER 2023-24

    1. Embiid
    2. Jokic
    3. Giannis
    4. SGA
    5. Luka
    47. Anthony Edwards

    Calling Edwards a star makes no sense. There is a big difference between him and the real thing. Get back to me when he finishes a season in the Top 15.

    https://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/year/2024
     
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    Do a small change on that to SG instead of All players.
    https://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg/league/west/year/2024

    1 Devin Booker, PHX
    2 Anthony Edwards, MIN
    3 James Harden, LAC
    4 Desmond Bane, MEM
    5 CJ McCollum, NO
    6 Josh Giddey, OKC
    7 Scotty Pippen Jr., MEM
    8 Bradley Beal, PHX
    9 Trey Murphy III, NO
    10 Malik Monk, SAC

    That is playing 79 games. Hollinger PER is a very lop sided stat that has a tendency to favor those that rebound the ball. It also is a bit slanted on assist/turnover ratio.

    Learn the stat then post.
     
    kjironman1, Sep 30, 2024
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    What a stupid list. Our top three are clearly Ayton, Grant and Avdija. Scoot isn't even top 5.
     
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