Politics The Trump Crazy Train!

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  1. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Obamacare took corrupt insurance and instead of fixing it, they just made it mandatory. The policies were literally drafted by the insurance companies they were “going after” lol. They threw in a few weak concessions to trick lefties like you into thinking it was good, even though the profits and mandates completely negate all of it. It’s a fucking scam and money grab like everything else you leftists fall for. Obamacare is a fucking travesty.
     
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    You are really gonna die on the hill of supporting obamacare because of the one single peanut you got thrown? You realize they just offset that cost by fucking you elsewhere, right?
     
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    Congratulations, they put duct tape over one hole in your dinghy before they stabbed ten more.
     
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    It isn’t good when it’s a bait and switch, do you understand that?

    Is a carrot good???!!!! Answer meeee!!!! Do you hate carrots?!?!?!

    Yes it’s good, until it gets tied to a string.
     
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    Hell yeah!
     
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    These fruitcakes are living in another reality...
     
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    It's far better than what we had before. Like, light years. But yes, it's still a joke.
     
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    The cost isn't a factor in this discussion. The removal of lifetime caps does not require insane pricing. The cost is going to be high in our current system regardless. The whole system is designed to make the cost high.

    This provision prevents people from being rejected for life-saving treatments. It makes post Obamacare far better than what we had before Obamacare.

    Every other developed country in the world has lower cost and no lifetime caps. It's not one or the other.

    Also the removal of restrictions for pre-existing conditions is another huge benefit of Obamacare.
     
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    What were the 10 holes that were added?
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    No, you just attack people in here every day with your arrogance and your pompousness. You pretend to ride the middle ground and no one is buying it.
     
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    What was the switch? What got worse due to Obamacare?
     
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    The problem is the notion that Obamacare in any way 'fixed' our healthcare system, it's slightly better and slightly worse than what we had in place before but it was sold as "FIXING THE SYSTEM" not just plugging one small hole in the boat while another one opened up. It's the same with the "FREE COLLEGE" plan, Uncle Joe slashing peoples student loans look great on paper but don't get to the root cause of anything. I want someone in office that can actually fix the problems, not just put band aids over gushing wounds but so far neither political party has figured out a way to do that because they are both beholden to the same lobbyists while the general masses fight over trivial matters.
     
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    I agree it didn't fix the system. But it made it significantly better. Eliminating the pre-existing conditions and lifetime cap options to deny care were huge. Incredibly huge. Monumental.

    Requiring a minimum level of coverage also was a huge improvement. Now lower priced HSAs require that a minimum level of preventive care is given. That's a huge, huge win.

    What part was made worse?

    Citizens United. We must find a way to mitigate the impacts of this ruling. Unfortunately this will not be happening over the next 4 years.
     
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    Maybe I'm too cynical and I'm glad the lifetime coverages are gone but for all the good the ACA did, there is plenty wrong with it and it didn't get to the root of the issue for a lot of people and that's continuing to see sky high premiums.
     
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    Why are you interested in gatekeeping where people stand politically on here? Why are you being the judge of that? And why don’t you address anything i actually say?
     
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    Remember too that the ACA was crippled at birth by the republicans demanding concessions that basically ensured it didn't work as designed. And EVEN THEN it's so much better than what we had.
     
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    100%. Absolutely

    And I still have yet to hear from anybody how it's worse than what we had before.

    Like it was some bait and switch that we had to give up a bunch of something... Nobody knows what
     
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    I wonder if people are actually nostalgic for the early 2000s when companies were slightly less shitty to their employees, and are conflating that with ACA's effect.
     
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    Maybe so; Dems have a city slicker image problem.
     
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    It didn't fix the system, yep. And agree that it helped tremendously.

    And it saved my life. So fuck everyone for trying to get rid of it because you're not compassionate or empathetic and got brainwashed by equal idiots.
     
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