What is your substantiation for your statement that our vets value has not declined? Our vets value has declined significantly the last 3 years if you use ESPN NBA rank.
yeah, I'm not sure how anybody could think that the value of the veterans hasn't declined. Now, it's likely the case that the value wasn't very good to start with but the three main vets the Blazers are featuring as a big-3 have been operating with a typical big-3's level of opportunity. They are taking more than half of Portland's shots and they get a lion's share of minutes and usage and they have led the Blazers to a 3-6 record; about to be 3-7 in 10 hours. And one of those three wins was against a Pels team missing 4 starters and their 6th man when playing the 2nd of a back-to-back. That kind of a result is bad for the value of any members of that big-3. especially considering that the NBA already knows about those guys; knows what they are and what they aren't
The value of all our vets was much higher years ago, I looked up and detailed many years worth of it in an NBA rank thread about a month ago. The current 3-6 record is actually very decent, although I'd expect a lot of losses are coming with our schedule so that might become 5-20 or such. But that's the flaw with the Blazers current strategic direction holding onto all 5 of these vets. The team either loses a lot and those vets value declines, or the team wins some and our lottery pick suffers in a loaded draft. The Blazers have painted themselves in a corner so no matter what happens the team suffers.
I think Scoot is player that needs lots of playing time. We have a year were we need to decide what we have two of the top 5 picks are great pg’s. I also think the more time young pg’s get the faster they develop
Good grief. I responded to a really dumb post and you're here defending the stupidity and insulting me? That poster has been barfing out the exact same emotional nearly impossible crap in multiple threads. How about posters make a semblance of sense in their posts? According to my read, the poster had no clue what they were posting about (this isn't the NFL) which is why I responded the plain/just the facts language way I did without insulting anyone... but then you felt the need to be an asshat. Please enlighten the board what "minimal return" you're so sure they were inferring exists? Jerami makes nearly 30M per, Ayton 34M. STOMP
Dump could include expiring contracts and a second round pick. At this point there's a number of fans who'd probably be happy with that just to have one or more of Grant Ayton Ant off this team.
Again, examples please! Teams have to want to make these trades, whats their motivation? Why do they want to acquire really expensive under performing players from a bottom feeder team? You're the genius here & I'm just the simpleton you're educating so make clear sense so dumbass's like me can understand the logic STOMP
Timelord does make sense to showcase, he hasn't been healthy. If he can get healthy and play well for 10-20 games and being on his cheap contract he might get a small return in trade. Grant Ayton Ant make no sense on this roster though as their trade value has been established for years.
Sorry but no, as you were so kind to point out I'm a just simpleton. I need a real smart guy like you to explain how these sorts of contracts are so easy to get out of. Hell, I am so dumb I'm very much on record for... A) Not wanting to acquire Grant for the Milwaukee pick which was turned into Jalen Duren, or B) Resigning him at all, let alone for the astronomical figure they did... because (get this) I thought he'd be nearly impossible to move at that figure & didn't fit their timeline. I advocated for clearing salaries, drafting well and expecting that quality FAs would want to come West when things turned positive. While the board was going nuts for trading Nurk for Ayton, I was lukewarm only because though I hated Nurk's act, I was leery of the inflated Ayton salary. But I'm glad a fucking genius like you is here to enlighten us with the many clear the salary deck trade options from teams who obviously covet Portland's overpriced/underperforming players. Can't wait for you to list them! Again, what I'm truly confused about is how a team can "dump players when there are no offers" which is what the post I originally benignly responded to contended. STOMP
lol, I never said that were or weren't offers... look at you with the piss poor reading comprehension. The original post that I took issue with made that claim which is why I put it in quotes. Per the CBA teams can't just dump players & their contracts without an offer as that poster contended, they need another team to take on the contract(s) and send similar valued assets back... this isn't the NFL But whatever... I'm playing your game now smart guy & am asking you to follow through on your claim. Whats a realistic trade that clears Portland's really expensive mediocre players from the books? Remember it takes two to tango, so the other team has to have good reasons for adding said overpaid/underperforming players. I was for avoiding this situation in the first place and contended that it's nearly impossible to move mediocre yet top dollar talent as other teams aren't pining for those sorts, but you smacked me down and said they just need expiring deals and a 2nd coming back. I'm sure you've got actual great options in mind and aren't just talking out your backside. STOMP
