I’m just not seeing the “fuck them” mentality you guys are seeing. Where is it at? Nobody at all whatsoever is saying that. There are crews from all over the country aiding in the fire fighting, search and rescue, cleanup and literally every other facet of this. Nobody wants to see someone’s home burn simply out of spite because of politics. You guys are inventing a battle that doesn’t exist.
Start by reading or listening to Tuberman's response then check out Jim Jordan’s and if you have the time read Musk and Trump's responses. Not hard to find at all if you take a split second. Mexico sent firefighters as did Ukraine. I told you about Tuberman in my first post. Try to keep up
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The scare tactics aren’t working pal. The demented geriatric in office did untold damage in a short amount of time and it’s obvious to see. His Democratic constituents are failing all around him, like in California where it’s literally on fire due to mismanagement. Every democrat run area has gotten exponentially worse. Trump even had to step in to stop the war in Gaza BEFORE he was even in office because nobody listens to Joe Biden mumbling bullshit. You’re screaming into the void, nobody cares about your chicken little “warnings” anymore, none of them ever come to fruition. You beat it to death and Trump is your reward. Enjoy!
California is on fire due to drought and lack of water rights. Rights which were given away mostly in the 90s and 2000s (literally the rights to 99% of Californias water given to a billionaire family,). 16 of those 20 years were Republican governors...
You’re cherry-picking. It’s been known for years that not enough is spent on forest management, thinning and clearing underbrush. The first set of fires that took out Paradise should have been a warning but nothing was done still. It’s mismanagement.
"Known"? California does prescribed burns and clearing when and where possible. These areas make it impossible to extremely cost prohibitive in many places because they are too steep and inaccessible.
No. Other fires it might have made a difference but not what happened this winter in Southern California. These arguments are largely incorrect, according to fire experts. Both county and state rules already require individuals to maintain vegetation-free buffer zones around homes in high-risk areas. Even these regulations, however, would not have stopped this round of fires, which spread quickly as Santa Ana winds with gusts of over 80 mph blew the blaze horizontally between houses and carried embers through the sky, touching off new blazes. “All of the brush clearance, fuel breaks — they’re very effective on what we would consider a normal day,” Chief Brian Fennessy of the Orange County Fire Authority toldThe Los Angeles Times. “But what you’re talking about here is probably less than 1% of all the fires that we respond to in Southern California.” “You could have put a 10-lane freeway in front of that fire and it would not have slowed it one bit,” he added. Making matters worse, hard-hit neighborhoods like Altadena and the Pacific Palisades are built in high-risk fire zones. In addition, 90 percent of Los Angeles County’s housing stock was constructed before 1990, prior to fire-proofing code requirements taking effect. “The houses are perfectly aligned with the direction of the prevailing Santa Ana winds,” wildfire mapping expert Zeke Lunder toldThe Washington Post. “It is too late after the city is built to think about this stuff.” An analysis from the newspaper found that as of Saturday, more than 70 percent of the burned areas in L.A. County were in zones the state determined have very high fire risk. Thus, when fast-moving winds began carrying the blaze towards these communities, the stage was set for catastrophic destruction. “The bottom line is the winds far outweigh the fuel in terms of fire spread in a situation like this,” Jon Keeley, fire ecologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, told LAist. “When you have these winds it makes fuels less relevant. And the fuels are definitely not relevant once it gets into the urban environment, because the primary fuels are the homes.” Moreover, clearing out brush is more effective in the ecosystems of Northern California and the Sierra Nevada mountains, where decades of total fire suppression allowed fuels to build up, ignoring both the landscape’s natural fire cycle and the long indigenous history of controlled burns. In these areas, controlled burns and reduction in brush can make forests both more resilient and less combustible, but these impacts are less meaningful in the dry, scrubby climate of Southern Calfornia, one of the most extreme fire climates in the world, according to the National Park Service. In these chaparral ecosystems, controlled burns could hasten the replacement of slow-gestating native plants with faster-growing invasives which die sooner and increase fire risk. https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-more-brush-clearance-really-215747202.html Did these and other second-guessers have a point? Scientists, wildfire specialists and firefighting officials had differing viewpoints. But several of these experts — including strong proponents of brush clearance — said that the winds fanning the flames were so fierce, and ground conditions so dry, that clearing more shrubs wouldn’t have had a significant effect. https://www.latimes.com/environment...-helped-slow-the-spread-of-the-palisades-fire
You know maybe you’re right. All the huge forests in Pacific Palisades/ Los Angeles just needed to have their floors swept. It isn’t the complete lack of rain and Santa Ana winds doing this. Pull ur head out.
Fox News and Trump tell me this is all Newsoms fault. He might as well of just started the fires himself. The Palisades forest floors needed to be swept.
