Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. ehizzy3

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    Seems like the U.S. is negotiating for Ukraine, and giving into whatever Russia wants

    Didn’t Trump invite Putin to visit the USA too?

    what a disgrace.
     
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    I feel like there were a couple of outspoken individuals on here who were complaining about how the U.S. was going to try to take resources from Ukraine. Have they commented now that they're homeboy is saying it?
     
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    Im just pissed and sadden by the fact this fucking war has gone on for so long. At least the way I view it Putin has lost as he didn't take Kiev as expected, sure maybe Ukraine doesn't join Nato but Sweden and others have and democracy is still any his door, thats what he fears the most.
     
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    Neville Trump
     
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    Senate Republicans confirmed Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence.
     
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    Because they didn’t. That’s probably why.
     
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    It’s kind of what happens when you lose a war someone else payed for.

    It’s like when dad co-signs for junior’s car loan. When junior totally fucks off all responsibility and it’s repo time, dad is the one sitting in the bank negotiating, not junior.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, it's more like when dad is a junkie, and is negotiating for a free fix in return for sex with his 13 year old step-daughter.

    barfo
     
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    Putin has lost the war, as he was not able to take Kiev and democracy & Nato is still at his door. And still will be, once there are peace keeping troops in Ukraine.
     
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    You mean, like when you make an agreement to give up weapons that would have protected you with the understanding that another country would defend you against Russia, and then that country chooses not to defend you?

    I'm certain that Trump would call that losing. But this is not a good look for the United States. It's incredibly shameful.
     
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    NATO is stronger than it was before, with the exception that Trump somehow figured out how to win again and may be as big of an opponent to NATO as Russia is.

    But NATO will hold out and outlast Trump. We need to get our shit together because we have our work cut out for us to recover from that asshole.
     
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    NATO will certainly survive. Without us, unfortunately.

    barfo
     
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    Incredibly unfortunate. We really need to get our shit together to make up for the next couple years at least. Hopefully Dems can get some control back in '26...
     
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    Wildly delusional take. But, it’s to be expected. I’ve been seeing these “Ukraine is actually winning if you think about it” takes for two years now. Both sides may be back to square one as you suggested, but you left out the part about Ukraine losing way more land that they are not getting back, losing a proportionately larger portion of their fighting age men (all of them), no chance in hell of joining nato like they were promised…and are now being forced to negotiate and make all of these concessions because the country that completely funded their debacle is pulling the plug.
    Yeah, big winners.
     

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