Official off-season thread 2025

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by kreidertime, Apr 18, 2025.

  1. Stepupstepan

    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    At some point you need to hand over the team to a new core and young kids. Now is the time to do it with a new coach coming in.
     
  2. NYR_94

    NYR_94 Well-Known Member

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    A guy who scores well over a point a game, with one-year remaining on his contract is FAR from the Rangers biggest issue. A guy like Panarin is valuable in the regular season, which cannot be overlooked. Plus, you are not going to retain any of his cap hit if you trade him, that would be incredibly stupid of course. He'll leave after next season, and the Rangers will get a ton of cap space to work with OR worst case, if the Rangers stink next season, you can trade Panarin at the DL for a haul. There is absolutely zero upside or logic to dealing Panarin now, unless you get a haul for him, which is highly unlikely, even if he did agree to waive his NMC.

    I think people should be focusing on way more important and impactful trades, not the guy who scores a lot of points and leads the team pretty much every season, especially with only one year remaining on his deal.
     
  3. Stepupstepan

    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    You’ve been fucking saying to change the core for the last two years but you don’t want to move the guy WHO is the biggest core piece. Moving Kreider does not move the needle that much. You’re playing it too safe as always but you keep saying Drury has no balls to do major moves
     
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    NYR_94 Well-Known Member

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    I am actually being smart and unemotional. The core needs to change, but that doesn't mean you do something stupid and give Panarin away, double so with only one season left on his deal, which will come with huge cap relief after next season. On top of that, Panarin actually produces in the regular season, and you need players like that. If you can get a top-level return for Panarin, and clear his full cap hit, of course I would trade him, but realistically I don't see that happening. I also don't see Zibanejad getting dealt either, but that is fully due to his contract with 5 long years remaining.

    I would focus on core guys like Kreider and K. Miller at the top of the realistic list and see where it goes from there.

    To be very clear, I don't disagree with your mindset at all Step, and everything, and I mean EVERYTHING should be on the table for the right return. I just don't think it is realistic to deal Zibanejad, without getting stuck with a bad deal or having to retain money. As for Panarin, unless you get an absolute haul, and clear his whole cap hit, I don't see how trading him makes the team better.

    All of this is also impacted by my lack of faith in Drury to be creative and make shrewd deals. If I believed Drury could deal Panarin and turn that into open cap space and go add a big-time player with the money, again I am open to it, and EVERYTHING is on the table. Issue is I don't believe Drury is capable of pulling it off, so I would look at moving Panarin just to move him, and that doesn't make sense to me due to performance, huge cap relief after next season, and worst case you can flip him at the DL for a big return.
     
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  5. PorterPanzer

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    Any serious rebuild starts with moving Fox who still has trade value before his NTC kicks in May 31st. I'd keep K'Andre because he's only 25 and an RFA along with Zac Jones and Robertson who with his size needs to get a better look. Half of the defensemen the Rangers dressed this year wouldn't crack the roster of most teams. Supposedly CK has been playing with a back injury, if true he didn't help himself or the team but hopefully it will be addressed off season. Cuylle, Edtsrom, Kaliyev, Rempe and Parssinen are all RFAs that won't break the bank but Drury needs to move someone. Panarin has 550 points in 430 games as a Ranger, I'd look to extend him. I think the worst contract following Fox is that lazy hump Laf, too bad Gorton didn't play a hunch and draft Stutzle but to Drury's credit Laf's NTC doesn't kick in until '27-'28.
     
  6. NYR_94

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    I said early in the season I wanted at least 3 dmen gone, and I standby that comment. So far Trouba and Lindgren are gone, one more needs to go. Whether it is Fox or K. Miller, I think they need to deal one. If Drury is going to deal Fox, it needs to happen around the draft as his NMC kicks in on July 1st.

    I really am good either way, Fox or Miller, but my head says Miller is the more likely player to get traded, especially considering you either sign him long-term now, or trade him I believe. On top of that, Fox is difficult to replace. He clearly isn't the same player he was a few years back, but I am hopeful with a very good LD partner he can raise his game again. And in a "down season" he still had 61 points in 74 games and was a + 9 going against the other team's best players every game and playing 23 mpg. Miller meanwhile had 27 points in 74 games and was a 0 +/- player.

    All things equal, I would trade Miller over Fox but again would be fine either way. If you do deal Fox, you need to get a stud level return, if you cannot, I would not deal him.
     
  7. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Boyle called the team, especially Zibanedouche a bunch of pussies. Brooks said it was the most sensitive team you ever covered. Oh boy. Drury he’s looking better and better.
     
  8. Ranger71

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    They need like 6 new players.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Drury fucked up the team. I read the post and it was that damn memo that went public with trouba and Kreider on the trade table early in the season that rattled the team. Then they trade Goodrow and Trouba who all the players on the team said were their top two leaders. They had the most balls on the team. I didn’t like the trades at all. I get the cap hits but I knew that they were giving up a lot of grit and leadership. That fucked up the whole team this year. Drury needs to go, this was all his fault, not Lavs
     
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    Once again, Drury has handled all of this like amateur hour.
    • He is the one who kept all the players together after the NJ loss (despite the whining and softness of the players in their exit interviews - which should have set off alarm bells).
    • He is the one who kept all the players together after the Florida loss.
    • He is the one who had whatever that public thing was with Trouba before the season and then kept him into the season.
    • He is the one who went public the Rangers were open for business, especially with Trouba and Kreider, in the middle of the season instead of during the summer like he should have.
    • He is the one who traded away 2nd and 5th round picks for Smith to fill a role he is not good enough to fill.
    • He is the one who then flipped Smith for Soucy which essentially means he traded 2nd and 5th round picks for 3rd pair/depth dman Soucy.
    • He is the one who hired Gallant.
    • He is the one who fired Gallant after two seasons.
    • He is the one who hired Lav.
    • He is the one who fired Lav after two seasons.
    Two of three seasons with embarrassing ends, and soon to be three new coaches in 4 seasons, enough is enough with this guy.
     
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  11. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Trouba and Goodrow were not worth close to the money they got. They had to go. This team has too many over sensitive, pussy veterans on it. So either you get rid of them or bring somebody in there who’s gonna fix it. Torts. Almost everything I’m seeing or hearing from this team that was bad is right up Torts alley. And I’m not the biggest Torts guy. However, at this time, he’s exactly what we need. They also need to get a young, exciting coach for the Wolfpack and when Torts runs his course not let him them go to some other team this time.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I think Drury is below average as a general manager, but Dolan sucks him off, so he’s not going anywhere. We will see if his plan of drafting all these 6’5 + guys works out.
     
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    Whether it's Torts, or somebody else with similar traits, the Rangers need a tough, hold players accountable, no BS coach, that is clear to me. These vets really are ridiculous. They whined and cried after the Devs series embarrassment, they are whining about Trouba and Goodrow now after another embarrassing season, it truly is crazy. Trade some of them, and then you need somebody to finally hold these guys accountable and put them in their place.

    The terrible example that gets set when a guy like Zibanejad is a joke all season, and yet he still plays 20 mpg, it's really bad for the whole team. Where is the leadership, not just from the coach, but the players also.

    What a total mess, which is no surprise when your team underperforms this much you know there is a locker-room issue, and the culture is not good/lacking leadership from the coaches/players. Same core players, same result as two seasons ago. Should be pretty clear what needs to happen.
     
  14. Ranger71

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    Drury got a multi-year extension.
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    God fucking damn it! Screw you dolan u FING MORON!
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Yep Dolan said, suck my cock players you’re the problem.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    This is a power move from Dolan saying to the pussy vets on the team. You are the reason we are on our 3rd coach. The reason we didn't make the finals. The owner officially put a lot of vets on notice today.
     
  18. Rangers94

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    LMFAO. Dude, you’re beyond clueless. Drury is the one who is keeping young players down in the minors. Drury is the one making HORRENDOUS trade after HORRENDOUS trade, weakening this team. Drury is the one that keeps hiring flame out coach after flame out coach. Drury is the one not scratching players like Mika even though they suck and killed this team. This franchise deserves all the losses it will be accumulating over the next several years. Can’t wait to become the San Jose Sharks of the East and compete with them for the first pick. Oh wait….we don’t even HAVE our pick next season. Hahahahahaha. Fuck this franchise. Fuck this owner. Can’t wait for Dolan to die.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    No, he’s not you dumb motherfucker. As usual you’re sucking off the players like you have been for the past 10 years.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    It’s assholes like you in our fan base like you who don’t ever wanna hold the players accountable.

    https://t.co/vKaqzE6Tsu

    Watch learn something 94 you clueless fuck.
     

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