Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    A real gym rat. Probably a coaches son.
     
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    How many casual fans could name him?
     
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    You're fine Nate, there's no harm in it from you. You're level headed for the most part, probably more often than I am on here. I'm just complaining about the endless barrage of conspiracies, out there in the world and online. Obviously you're not a flat earther or an election denier or even if you are you don't make anyone on here suffer through constant rambling about it. No, I was just also frustrated with the results of this lottery and am constantly frustrated with the conspiracy culture that's taken hold on our society these days.

    If you're not calling anyone naive for not buying the idea that you've been talking about then it was me who was out of line and not you. You do your thing. GO BLAZERS!!! Even on a day when according to me bad luck fucked us over and according to you maybe the league did.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He has the 6th most jersey sales in the country behind Curry, LeBron, Tatum, Brunson, and Wemby. So I’d say probably?
     
  5. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    We certainly got fucked over one way or the other. We can agree on that.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Really it's just the Lakers. Take them out and it's not that skewed, especially in recent decades. Yeah Bulls had the Jordan run, Warriors Curry, but outside that those franchise haven't done much. Spurs won a bunch with Duncan.

    Celtics have a ton of titles but mostly when the league was like 8 teams and other teams literally sold them players so that has nothing to do with today's NBA. Since the 80s they only have the Garnett title and last year's.

    Yeah I was furious with the Lakers Luka trade. But it just seems that Nico had some Anthony Davis fetish and the new owner didn't like Luka.

    Lakers really aren't setup that well to contend anyways. They have few picks, and not really any players of value besides Luka/Reaves. Doubt they get HCA. Their ownership is actually not very wealthy and they might never want to pay the 2nd apron.

    I agree the league has much more parity the last decade. Plenty of things I don't like with the NBA but some lottery conspiracy in today's league is laughable.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Mostly that was the Blazers own doing prioritizing wins that put us down to pick 11 vs a team like the Jazz guaranteed a top5 pick.

    Hell even winning 1 less game would have put us up at the Rockets spot.

    I don't think dropping from 10 to 11 meets the definition of being "fucked over"
     
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    I'll be honest, Nico didn't deserve Flagg but those Dallas fans probably did. Could you imagine having to watch our team get a guy as fucking gifted as Luka and then having our GM give him away for AD (who surprise surprise has a season ending injury) and one future FRP.

    I always only want nice things for us and we rarely get them but when I take a step back, at least he went to the Mavs and their abused fans instead of the seemingly always lucky Spurs... who still seem like they're going to get the second best guy in this draft... SMH.
     
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    Bucks might take that for Dame.

    That Grant contract is aging poorly. I tend to think we will be stuck with him on a Blazers roster until 2028.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Having talented evaluators is even more important. They aren't mutually exclusive.
     
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    But what's the point of losing 11 just to get out of Grants deal?

    While I hate having Grant and his contract I don't see us getting close to #11 value if it was off our cap. We might just spend it on a huge deal for Ant or Ayton.
     
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  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It just seems like drafts keep getting weaker. Outside the top few picks, most players in the past few drafts have been crap.
     
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  13. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Because we need the cap space to keep building our team. We have to pay some of these younger players and will have to pay more of them to keep them soon. Can't do that with giant useless contracts like Grants hanging around.
     
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    You "tank" because you have better odds to get better players the higher you pick.

    You don't "tank" to get the first pick. As I have been saying all along. Though you get a higher chance for that as well.

    And you get the old guys that you know you aren't going to build with out of the way so the young guys you currently have can get the game reps you need them getting.

    *Edit* As opposed to reps standing in the corner with an old guy dominating the ball while trying to prove he still has potential.
     
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  15. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Fair enough

    I agree we need to get rid of some of these veterans now.
     
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    Which would be evidence that having a higher floor of where your pick could be is important because you can never rely fully on chance.
     
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    You don't give up young talent for something theoretical. There is no immediate need for cap space which it wouldn't even create by moving him. The optics alone is why it won't happen. I also don't think it would take a lottery pick to move Grant. I also think he'd be fine coming off the bench and provide scoring.
     
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    Odd dynamic to Flagg or any Mavs star... Would you want to join that franchise? You've seen how they treat a superstar that carries a team to the finals. I could see stars prefer not to be on a team with that owner or Nico as the GM.
     
  19. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Unless you are the Mavericks or Spurs
     
  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Flagg did look kind of worried
     

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